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 Da Boss wrote:
I'd rather play against Iron Warriors from 3.5 than lash of submission with high ap templates from 4 to be honest.

Largely dependent on the list and edition.

3.5 Iron Warriors were built on the principle of winning a game of gunline attrition by having more heavy units(and oblits) than other armies could match. They were the dwarf gunline of 40k, skill optional.

Lash with the right match-up it could neuter an opponent, with the wrong match-up not so much - and the wrong match-up in this case was mechanised infantry, aka every other opponent in 5th edition.

 Jayden63 wrote:
His hidden secret was the dread axe. He killed anything he touched, just like a good Daemon Prince should.

I remember the dread axe prince.
6+ attacks at 3+ to hit, striking first, instant death on 2+ (strength 8), no armour saves, no invulnerable saves, no FnP.

Basically an auto-win against anything short of insane combat monsters like the solitaire or the nightbringer, and the nightbringer would be puckering up on the charge.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Exactly what combination of upgrades are you using for this build? I'm guessing: Mark of Slaanesh + Daemonic Mutation + Daemonic Strength + Daemonic Stature + Furious Charge + Combat Drugs + Dreadaxe and CC weapon. Is that correct?

I'd skipped the mutation in this particular instance, the points were starting to add up and it's just a gimmick build anyway.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Agreed. It's essentially a "spikey distraction Carnifex"

More of a 6-7th edition d-strength attacking, demon summoning deathstar precursor, but with access to a better invisibility spell :p

Total overkill though. I'm kind of curious now on how a 3.5 prince without wargear limits would have performed in the old apoc environment, some kind of ludicrous unkillable 500pt monstrosity performing sweeping advances between titans.