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2021/12/11 09:20:17
Subject: Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Me and a buddy bought and splittes a space marine combat Patroll.
He wanted eliminators with lascannons and some others. I wanted incursors and some others.
The eliminators do not come with the lascannon option.
The incursors only come as infiltrators.
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2021/12/11 09:22:58
Subject: Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Yes we have known since it’s launch that it is the the Shadowspear sprues, not the full kits. Sorry it caught you out but it isn’t news to the community.
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 Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2021/12/11 09:43:35
Subject: Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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It is not so much public information as it is me wanting to complain.
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2021/12/11 09:47:43
Subject: Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I feel you on the disappointment but at the same time the kit is clear on what it comes with.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2021/12/11 13:28:52
Subject: Re:Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Does GW still show you the sprues on their site?
If so I'd suggest always looking before you buy.
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2021/12/11 15:38:50
Subject: Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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 JohnnyHell wrote:I feel you on the disappointment but at the same time the kit is clear on what it comes with.
The infoltrators they inform about. But not that the eliminators only come with the standar gun. You do jot get the Las option:
Description
The Space Marines are numbered amongst the most elite warriors in the Imperium. Created by the Emperor himself from the genetic material of the demigod Primarchs, they are the ultimate soldiers for a cruel and terrible age.
Wield the unstoppable might of the Angels of Death with Combat Patrol: Space Marines. This boxed set provides you with all the units you need to get started or build on an existing force. The contents of this set have been specifically chosen to provide you with an ideal Space Marines force for Combat Patrol-sized games – approximately 25 Power Level's worth of miniatures.
This set includes the following units:
- 1x Primaris Lieutenant in Phobos Armour
- 10x Primaris Infiltrators
- 3x Suppressors
- 3x Eliminators
- 1x Primaris Impulsor
All models are supplied with their appropriate bases."
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2021/12/12 01:49:05
Subject: Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Niiai wrote:But not that the eliminators only come with the standar gun.
The pictures of the sprues clearly show they only have the one weapon option.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2021/12/12 01:49:53
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2021/12/12 02:52:09
Subject: Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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 Platuan4th wrote: Niiai wrote:But not that the eliminators only come with the standar gun.
The pictures of the sprues clearly show they only have the one weapon option.
So people needs to get to look at mixed sprues to see if specific models have only one weapon option? As it shows here, not everybody that plays this game is as invested as most people that post here, and I doubt not many other people made the same mistake.
I'm sorry but GW should CLEARLY put in the description of the content that those box are monopose without options when you have alternative versions of this kits that have other options.
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 Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2021/12/12 05:00:18
Subject: Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Platuan4th wrote: Niiai wrote:But not that the eliminators only come with the standar gun.
The pictures of the sprues clearly show they only have the one weapon option.
A newer player wouldn't necessarily know what everything looks like nor should it be expected to. You can look at the codex, see you want this thing, but it's not clearly laid out what they are until you buy it. There is no reason they couldn't tag the sprues or provide a breakdown of what is in it digitally. Especially since the combat patrol is a box recommended for newer players.
I lament this because that was my experience.
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2021/12/12 08:09:21
Subject: Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Stubborn White Lion
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Yeah even as a white knight thats a bit crap for the consumer.
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2021/12/12 18:23:02
Subject: Re:Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Some clarity on the box/content description would be nice for the potential buyer. The Combat Patrol boxes are a mixed bag in terms of kits having the full options or not. Now, we should do a little checking before dropping $170 CAD on something, but I don't think it is asking too much for the box to spell it out on the cover?
I am no businessman, but I don't think it is a good practice to condition your customers to be skeptical of what's in the box?
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2021/12/12 19:13:41
Subject: Re:Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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50/50 on whether or not this is as big an issue as people are making it out to be.
On one hand, not explicitly advertising the box as including the fully customisable versions of the included kits (barring the Impulsor of course) is a bit gakky.
That being said, the product descriptions for the full kits of Infiltrators and Eliminators explicitly outline what the kits can do, including the alternate unit builds for the Infiltrators. It could also be argued that as a starter force, which CP are primarily marketed as, ETB kits are preferred over more complex ones.
For me it just means I'm unlikely to buy it because that's too much cutting for my Deathwatch.
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2021/12/12 19:58:34
Subject: Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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The infoltrators I can understand. It does not say it is a dual kit. But the eliminators is very rough.
If you compare it to say dreadnoughts then they list the weapons options. The coveted multi melta is only in the space wolf dreadnought kit for instance.
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2021/12/13 16:48:58
Subject: Space Marine combat patrol, not what you think!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Niiai wrote:The infoltrators I can understand. It does not say it is a dual kit. But the eliminators is very rough.
To be fair, conversion job to lasgun is very easy. Cut off notch and post from the gun, cut off tip of the barrel to get rid of the vent hole and angle it like las barrels, replace bolter magazine with cables disappearing under cloak or lascannon batteries - and very few people will be able to tell the difference. You don't even need any spare bits, a file and a bit of cable will suffice, though you can use leftover las barrels from SM vehicles if you want 100% 'official' look.
Niiai wrote:If you compare it to say dreadnoughts then they list the weapons options. The coveted multi melta is only in the space wolf dreadnought kit for instance.
Funnily enough, that's kind of the fault of another ETB kit - namely starter dreadnought that used to come with that option so it was skipped from regular ones...
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