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Hi all, I have a question that I couldn't really understand at the table haha.

He played as Custodes and took the radiant mantle for the minus 1 to hit. Then he took cover in some dense terrain. I subsequently markrlighted him, thinking it would cancel it out as numbers can't be modified by more or less than one usually. But he worked it out I was still minus one to hit even with the Markerlight, as whilst it cancelled out the dense cover, his warlord trait also gave a minus one to hit. So I was still hitting on 5s.

My knowledge is that they are effectively the same thing so couldn't stack.

Which one is correct?

Many thanks for any input!

The way it works is:

You add up all + and - modifiers.
If the total is more then +1, it caps to +1.
If the total is less than -1, it caps to -1.

So your opponent was likely correct here, though I don't know the Custodes ability specifically.

Abilities that do the same thing generally do stack. The only general exception is for Auras which don't stack with the SAME aura from a difference source. Though two differently named Auras with the same effect would stack.

 Stux wrote:
The way it works is:

You add up all + and - modifiers.
If the total is more then +1, it caps to +1.
If the total is less than -1, it caps to -1.

So your opponent was likely correct here, though I don't know the Custodes ability specifically.

Abilities that do the same thing generally do stack. The only general exception is for Auras which don't stack with the SAME aura from a difference source. Though two differently named Auras with the same effect would stack.

That makes total sense now I see it written down. The totals part cleared it up massively for my Ork brain. Yes it was a simple -1 to hit on the mantle. Thanks so much for clearing that up!

Lesson of the day: don't give Orks Markerlights.

Stux has it bang on. Two lots of -1 is -2, add your +1 and you’re at -1. This is a valid result. If after mods you’d be at -2 it’s improved to -1.