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Wishing I was back at the South Atlantic, closer to ice than the sun

So noticing that the Drone Controller and Drone Uplink doesn't actually work.

The FM comes equipped with 3 Sniper Drones.

Drone Uplink states
In your command phase select one Sniper Drone Unit...


But no Drone Unit exists as they are part of the FM unit.

Does this mean, that in order for the uplink to work I have to spend 1CP on the stratagem to "dismount" the drones from the unit?

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Glasgow

This probably needs an FAQ but for now the way I would interpret this as working

It is not a sniper drone unit so can't be targeted

You could use the designated tasking strat to separate them for 1CP then they would be a valid target

Alternatively, if you take multiple drone controllers you could allow one Marksman to die and then his unit could be targeted by the other marksman but this would seem a high risk strategy.
   
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Bristol

 AndrewC wrote:
So noticing that the Drone Controller and Drone Uplink doesn't actually work.

The FM comes equipped with 3 Sniper Drones.

Drone Uplink states
In your command phase select one Sniper Drone Unit...


But no Drone Unit exists as they are part of the FM unit.

Does this mean, that in order for the uplink to work I have to spend 1CP on the stratagem to "dismount" the drones from the unit?


You're reading the rule incorrectly.

It says Sniper Drone unit. The bold text indicates you look for a unit with the Sniper Drone keyword. The Sniper Drone model has the Sniper Drone keyword and so any unit containing Sniper Drones gains that keyword.

Drone models do not gain the keywords of the units they are attached to, but the units do gain the drone keyword, as well as the specific keyword for the type of drone, when they include drones.

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Wishing I was back at the South Atlantic, closer to ice than the sun

Its daft, because the Drone Controller works in the exact same way, it targets a Drone Unit within 6". So a stealth team with attached drones can't actually buff their own drones.

Here's to the FAQ.

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Bristol

 AndrewC wrote:
Its daft, because the Drone Controller works in the exact same way, it targets a Drone Unit within 6". So a stealth team with attached drones can't actually buff their own drones.

Here's to the FAQ.


Yes they can, as the Stealth Suit unit gains the Drone keyword when it has drone models in it. The unit is within 6" of itself and so is a valid target.

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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.

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Wishing I was back at the South Atlantic, closer to ice than the sun

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

You're reading the rule incorrectly.

It says Sniper Drone unit. The bold text indicates you look for a unit with the Sniper Drone keyword. The Sniper Drone model has the Sniper Drone keyword and so any unit containing Sniper Drones gains that keyword.


Okay I can see the logic there, but the inclusion of the word "unit" really throws you(me) off. Its a horrible parsing of the rule. To me it, honestly, reads as a Sniper Drone unit, not a unit contains that Sniper Drones.

I think I may be asking my opponent on their interpretation and using it, good or bad.

I don't care what the flag says, I'm SCOTTISH!!!

Best definition of the word Battleship?
Mr Nobody wrote:
Does a canoe with a machine gun count?
 
   
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Bristol

 AndrewC wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:

You're reading the rule incorrectly.

It says Sniper Drone unit. The bold text indicates you look for a unit with the Sniper Drone keyword. The Sniper Drone model has the Sniper Drone keyword and so any unit containing Sniper Drones gains that keyword.


Okay I can see the logic there, but the inclusion of the word "unit" really throws you(me) off. Its a horrible parsing of the rule. To me it, honestly, reads as a Sniper Drone unit, not a unit contains that Sniper Drones.

I think I may be asking my opponent on their interpretation and using it, good or bad.


That's just how the keyword system works.

For another example there is the Crisis Commanders Tactical Acumen rule which says
In your Command phase, you can select one friendly <Sept> Crisis Core unit...

There is no unit called <Sept> Crisis Core. There is a unit with the <Sept>, Crisis, and Core keywords.

Another example is the Fire Markerlights Action which says "one or more Markerlight units can start to perform this action..." etc.
There's no Markerlight unit, but there are units with the Markerlight keyword and models with the Markerlight keyword.

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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
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Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
 
   
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Glasgow

Sorry I was unaware the firsight marksman gained the drone keyword if that's the case it works

I found the relevant raw quote from the CORE rules

"Some units can include models that have different keywords. While a unit has models with different keywords, it is considered to have all the keywords of all of its models, and so is affected by
any rule that applies to units with any of those keywords."

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