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Hey all!

So I have a 500pts game next Thursday; its my first game in almost a decade.
Is the flyer too much of a points sink for a 500pt game? As I expect they will have mostly infantry.

My List:

Snikrot
Min Squad of boyz
8 kommandos
Wazbom jet - MegaKannons + 2x Supas


My strat: Use the wazbom to either blowup any elite/vehicle units. If they have mostly chaff, hope to use it to assassinate their HQ if they leave it open and I can get the plane closest.

Options: I have access to most units (except the latest beast snagga stuff), so I could easily swap it out, I just love the model.

I would say the jet is the best part of the list, since is a decent damage dealer that will not be taken down easily in a 500p game.

I would say you have a bit of an issue with the rest of the list.

- For such a small game, I would not recomend using snikrot. You barely have enough komandos to justify him, he cant Waargh and it kinds of forces you to go blood axes instead of any other klan cultur.
If you find him fun, I would make a full on kommando list instead. You are not getting any relics or traits by jusing him, so either use his habilites or drop him.

- You are not filling the minimum detachment slots, so you are not getting any benefits from that. If you dont fill at least a patrol (1 HQ and 2 troops) you dont get CPs back and klan culture.


As an alternative, I would suggest:

Klan culture Blood axes, patrol detachment
Boss snikrot
2 units of gretching
2 units of 5 komandos with klaw nob
Wazbom Blastajet minimum set up

You might want to use specialists mobs either on the flyier (boomboyz), or the kommandos with sneaky gitz

With blood axes you get cover over 18 inches, and both gretching and komandos gaing extra savings when in cover. You keep the gretching back to hold your own objectives and flanking, and you deploy foward with the kommandos suported by the flyier. Against vehicles you have the flyier, 2 klaws and the HQ, and enought bodies on the ground to hold objectives.

 Killatores wrote:
I would say the jet is the best part of the list, since is a decent damage dealer that will not be taken down easily in a 500p game.

I would say you have a bit of an issue with the rest of the list.

Spoiler:

- For such a small game, I would not recomend using snikrot. You barely have enough komandos to justify him, he cant Waargh and it kinds of forces you to go blood axes instead of any other klan cultur.
If you find him fun, I would make a full on kommando list instead. You are not getting any relics or traits by jusing him, so either use his habilites or drop him.

- You are not filling the minimum detachment slots, so you are not getting any benefits from that. If you dont fill at least a patrol (1 HQ and 2 troops) you dont get CPs back and klan culture.


As an alternative, I would suggest:

Klan culture Blood axes, patrol detachment
Boss snikrot
2 units of gretching
2 units of 5 komandos with klaw nob
Wazbom Blastajet minimum set up

You might want to use specialists mobs either on the flyier (boomboyz), or the kommandos with sneaky gitz

With blood axes you get cover over 18 inches, and both gretching and komandos gaing extra savings when in cover. You keep the gretching back to hold your own objectives and flanking, and you deploy foward with the kommandos suported by the flyier. Against vehicles you have the flyier, 2 klaws and the HQ, and enought bodies on the ground to hold objectives.

Oh my bad, I thought Patrol was 1-3 troops? Battlescribe had no problem?

Either way I get what your saying; not making much use of the ability Snikrot brings. I will have a re-think! I was already considering grots for exactly the reason you stated, gives me some great cheap objective holders, can do actions. I will go spec this out. Thanks a bunch! I was worried that at 500pts my opponent would simply ignore the wazbom and rush to kill my kommandos and then leave me without enough ground presence to score points.

In terms of the flyer, how would you play it? Can i expect it to be on the board every turn? with the 90 degree turns, should I basically scoot around the perimeter of the board? Or should I expect to do a zig-zag and leave the board turn 3? Bit unsure how the planes movement is going to turn out.

Killtores is incorrect.
A Patrol detachment is 1-2 HQ, 1-3 Troop, 0-2 Elite/Fast Attack/Heavy Support.

Board size in 500-1000 points is supposed to be (minimum) 44"x30". The model is approximately 4.7"x3.6" for its base (and I don't have one so I don't know of the model sticks over its base). But no part of it can go off the board without going into reserves.
It is destroyed. If it instead goes into reserves, well... it didn't shoot so it basically did nothing.

So if you set it up more than 6" from your board edge, it will rotate 90 and point it's long end toward the opponent's edge, then fly 20" and stick the edge of its base over the edge, destroying it. If you are playing the short edge deployment, the same issue happens but in turn 2.