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In 8th I ran a Chaos list that looked like this:

Slaanesh Demon Battalion Detachment

Keeper Of Secrets
Herald

30 Demonettes

10 Seekers

Chaos Spearhead Detachment

Demon Prince

Vindicator
Predator
Defiler
Maulerfiend

With Chaos codex coming up soon I started wondering if a list like this is even still allowed in 9th. The reason I ask is because I recall hearing about some rule changes regarding soup lists.

 
   
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I am hoping Chaos has a greater capacity for soup than other factions; they need to be at least as flexible as eldar.

There will also likely be White Dwarf special lists- the equivalent of a Tochbearer Fleet or an Army of Faith. Campaign books will be another source of this sort of thing- The Disciples of Be'Lakor is one such list.

Most dexes now have purity rules- they get big bonuses for fighting as homogenous rather than allied forces. Eldar had a lot of exceptions though- Harlequins don't break purity for DE or CWE, nor do Corsairs. Cwe and DE models can combine via Ynnari.

I'm looking forward to all the chaos dexes- I'm expecting some degree of interaction between them, but it remains to be seen.
   
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Yes, although all CD <ALLEGIANCE> units must align with the same god.

Edit: Above info is wrong The only exceptions to this are as follows:
The <MARK OF CHAOS> and <ALLEGIANCE> keywords - these can be different for different units in a player’s army.
The DREADBLADE and FREEBLADE keywords - these units can have different selectable Faction keywords to other units in a player’s army.
SPECIALIST MOB units.

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 vict0988 wrote:
Yes, although all CD <ALLEGIANCE> units must align with the same god.


Not true, demon allegiance have an exemption of the new nachmund rules
   
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 vict0988 wrote:
Yes, although all CD <ALLEGIANCE> units must align with the same god.


Not true. Those aren't selectable keywords.
   
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Question - is CHAOS a sufficient keyword for the detachments between two books to be Battle-Forged, or would the OP need to use SLAANESH as the linking keyword?

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

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You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
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 Dysartes wrote:
Question - is CHAOS a sufficient keyword for the detachments between two books to be Battle-Forged, or would the OP need to use SLAANESH as the linking keyword?

It's sufficient for the overall army, but not for the individual detachments in the army. You cannot for example have Noise Marines and Bloodletters in the same detachment, but you can have them in the same army in different detachments.
   
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If you play matched play then Chaos can not be used as the linking word. However, Slaanesh works in all circumstances.
   
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 vict0988 wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
Question - is CHAOS a sufficient keyword for the detachments between two books to be Battle-Forged, or would the OP need to use SLAANESH as the linking keyword?

It's sufficient for the overall army, but not for the individual detachments in the army. You cannot for example have Noise Marines and Bloodletters in the same detachment, but you can have them in the same army in different detachments.

Aye, I was thinking about the OP's example list - given we're looking at a detachment from Chaos Daemons and one from CSM, I didn't think CHAOS was enough as a link these days.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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 Dysartes wrote:
 vict0988 wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
Question - is CHAOS a sufficient keyword for the detachments between two books to be Battle-Forged, or would the OP need to use SLAANESH as the linking keyword?

It's sufficient for the overall army, but not for the individual detachments in the army. You cannot for example have Noise Marines and Bloodletters in the same detachment, but you can have them in the same army in different detachments.

Aye, I was thinking about the OP's example list - given we're looking at a detachment from Chaos Daemons and one from CSM, I didn't think CHAOS was enough as a link these days.


its the same as putting Marines and Guard in the same list. Imperium, Chaos, Aeldari are only non-linking within the same detachment
   
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Yep. Imperium etc limit came from days when it wasn't that uncommon to have say celestine and couple marine characters in same supreme commander detachment back then. That's what it was designed to stop. Not chaos daemons and chaos marines in separate detachments working together.

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Necroing my own thread here.

Thanks for the replies. So from what I understand my list is still allowed because the Chaos keyword links the army. I would need two detachments, one from the Daemon book, and one from the CSM book. Pretty much the same thing I did in 8th.

 
   
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Yep. Mind you you lose rules doing that. How much and what depending on how split is.

If you have mostly CSM army but max 25% PL in daemons in one detachment you lose just warpstorm table from daemons and enchanced deep strike except around warp locus for daemons. Otherway around you lose those and legion traits(black legion etc) for CSM.

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