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So currently there is a debate that players are arguing dreadclaws and units inside either do count or don’t towards the 1000 point max so one judge ruled it as I was going 288 over the limit, other judge rules dreadclaws and units inside ignore the points restriction. Going to try a new list at the tournament with No dreadclaws so won’t waste time arguing it /cry


++ Spearhead Detachment -3CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [29 PL, 575pts, -3CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost [-3CP]

Plague Company

+ HQ +

Malignant Plaguecaster [5 PL, 95pts]

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 160pts]: 2x Entropy cannon, Heavy slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 160pts]: 2x Entropy cannon, Heavy slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 160pts]: 2x Entropy cannon, Heavy slugger

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [52 PL, 1,000pts, 12CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype

Legion: Emperor's Children

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [6 PL, 80pts]: 2x Astartes chainsword, Mark of Slaanesh, Raiment Revulsive

Sorcerer [5 PL, 90pts]: Bolt pistol, Delightful Agonies, Force axe, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience, Reader of Fate, Warlord

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun: 9x Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun: 9x Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun: 9x Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

+ Elites +

Terminators [16 PL, 340pts]: Icon of Excess, Mark of Slaanesh
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator Champion: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw

Terminators [16 PL, 340pts]: Icon of Excess, Mark of Slaanesh
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw
. Terminator Champion: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Chaos - Daemons) [27 PL, 421pts, -3CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Chaos Allegiance: Chaos Undivided

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]

+ HQ +

Changecaster [5 PL, 85pts]: Gaze of Fate, Treason of Tzeentch

+ Troops +

Bloodletters [12 PL, 201pts, -1CP]: Banner of Blood, Bloodreaper, Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos
. 21x Bloodletter: 21x Hellblade

Plaguebearers [10 PL, 135pts]: Plagueridden
. 14x Plaguebearer: 14x Plaguesword

++ Total: [108 PL, 6CP, 1,996pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

They don't count though (Drop pods against points limit). Per the drop pod assault rules description in the dreadclaw entry.

Next time you ask, show them a copy. And ask them.. you aren't overruling a legitimate rule are you?

How in the world are you using Treason of Tzeentch?

Also why not make the sorcerer and the chaos lord both terminators that way they can drop in with the regular terminators.

Whats the purpose of the plaguebearers?

I posted what became a huge disagreement of a debate on Facebook where about 90% said it wasn’t allowed including some top players. About 10% argued in favor of dreadclaws but it clarifies 1/2 units not points. I’m not sure about treason of tzeentch, it says it’s a power changecaster has on battlescribe


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Plaguebearers are obsec. I don’t have enough points to give my characters terminators armor

 Defeatmyarmy wrote:
I posted what became a huge disagreement of a debate on Facebook where about 90% said it wasn’t allowed including some top players. About 10% argued in favor of dreadclaws but it clarifies 1/2 units not points. I’m not sure about treason of tzeentch, it says it’s a power changecaster has on battlescribe


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Plaguebearers are obsec. I don’t have enough points to give my characters terminators armor

https://worldteamchampionship.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/WTC_2022_FAQ_1.0.pdf

Look up drop pods. (maybe they accept it, maybe not, but if you don't ask the answer is no), I wonder what top player argues against this, looking at the space marine rules its the same. Unless space marines can't do it either, however... WTC says yes.

Regardless, I would have one drop pod, so you can drop a 5 man terminator unit (or 10 chosen) on turn 1.

I do not think your daemons are adding anything important to your list and they have me confused on choices. Your changecaster has no synergy with anything, and of all the pyschic powers available you chose the worst one (was hoping you found a cool combo that I overlooked). Have you considered a herald of slannesh instead? (They have some useful psychic powers). The bloodletters are okay but you want the banner AND a crimson crown which means a khorne HQ of some sort. However since you are already playing EC, you have auto-charging terminators. You won't weaker ones. And obsec on plaguebearers.... meh. I'd run nurglings or have cultists instead. 135pts of plaguebearers is almost about the same as 30 cultists., Which you have plenty of already. Also if you intend to summon the bloodletters... how are you going to do it? You need a khorne marked character, footslogging is pretty risky. I'd say drop the whole lot or re-focus on slanneesh daemons.

Looking at your EC. The chaos lord is lackluster, and doesn't do anything interesting. I would make it into a combat monster. My personal favorite is Chaos Lord, wings, thunderhammer, rainment repulsive, Loathsome Grace, combi-melta. I think your sorcerer is fine, minus a trait. Maybe doesn't even need wings or terminator armor, but its recommended.

I did triple PBCs and with my iron warriors daemon engine list it was amazing. All three lived, one did take 10 wounds. I thought about a tallyman afterwards, I tend to pop my CP way too soon, but its still not necessary.

How has your list otherwise been performing?