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Death Korps got their Infantry kit and are rumoured to get more. Could be a sign.
GW just needs to keep the converted Regiment examples in the Codex to remind people that Cadians, Catachans, and Krieg aren't the only options.
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More people need to watch and read Matilda because:
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The Praetorians were featured in a post-Rift Cadian novel like a year ago, they aren't gone from the background but I would absolutely understand why GW would try to shy away from their use considering their influence.
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chaos0xomega wrote:
Were they? I heard that there was a novel in the works, but then the author (about a year ago) said that the title was pulled by Black Library and it probably wouldn't be moving forward.

One of the Minka Lensk novels by Justin D. Hill, though I can't remember which one, starts off with a gathering of Guard officers. A Praetorian officer insults the honour of the Cadians by declaring them a defeated people and a failure of a Regiment (IIRC). He ends up dueling a Cadian officer over it.
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You don't need to recycle your sprues, just cut them apart and make weird cursed terrain out of them.
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Can't copywrite generic terms.
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The author's Roane Deeper's story in Sabbat War was really good. It got a claustrophobia warning in the editor's note by Abnett and it definitely needed it.
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The most recent anthology, has a lot of good stuff in it.
https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/sabbat-war-ebook-2021.html
The story is called Deep and I would recommend reading it because my explanation won't do it justice.

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Why is the number of poses that big a deal for an army where you're supposed to be running masses of things? Of all the units to be dynamic for every single model, Guardsmen are not what jumps to the top of the list IMO.
Space Marines, sure you don't get a lot of them in an army and similar poses are sometimes noticeable but also pretty easy to sort cos, Bitz. But Guardsmen are the faceless masses that look the same as their 80 other comrades because individuality doesn't matter when you are a little better than a number with a gun.

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So what I'm hearing is that if your opponent is putting down 80 Guardsmen, 3 HWT, 4 Russes, 2 Chimeras, a Basilisk, 2 Commanders and a Commisar, that it will irritate you that one in every 20 models will have a similar pose?
Forgive me if I think that's about the worst complaint I've heard in a while.

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Not bad and they are still generic enough that they could easily be head-swapped to make a different Regiment.
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I don't get why this is such a big deal. There are plenty of alternate options to use as Rough Riders if you don't like horses and the concept fits with the archaic nature of Imperial military tactics and traditions.
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Aecus Decimus wrote:
That's the really sad thing about this. The people GW is hurting are the ones who are most invested in the army, the e-sport tournament players don't care one bit and will just buy whatever models give the best win rate and then move on to the next army once guard are no longer the newest overpowered thing. It's the people who have been in the hobby for decades, have put countless hours into lovingly converting and painting whole armies, who are getting pushed out and told they don't matter. And how long can 40k last with only the e-sport crowd to keep it alive?

Blaming comp players isn't fair, nor is it accurate to suggest that GW is entirely catering to the comp scene in products. The rules absolutely reflect a change to a more rigid ruleset compared to the flexibility of the past but the rules are not what makes GW its money, the models are. Comp players aren't even the biggest player group, those who just game in a club or with friends far outnumber those who attend tournaments with these environments also being the starting point for many comp players in the first place and will often be their local gaming scene. Even then, people who just buy the models to build and paint outnumber everyone else on top.
The rules team for 40k isn't good but it's not the fault of comp players, it's just bad decisions by the higher-ups in the company.
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Doesn't vibe with me at all. At least there are parts to cover the wheels with.
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If the hull and the turret were less curved and more angular I would like it a lot more. The last picture in the article has a Chimera in the background and there's such a difference in the design aesthetics.
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Just making an assumption but if this is a properly "new" thing and not just "They always had it", then that would inform a lot of the design choices.
Before with the Guard its been two chassis with various additional weapons systems tacked on or the role of the vehicle changed. Artillery was based on the Chimera and Tanks/TDs were based on the Russ. The FW tanks were ancient designs retrofitted with Imperial weapons systems rather than new designs so they all shared the same aesthetic. If the Dorn is an entirely new design, then it makes sense that it would look different but then it also loses yet more of the lack of innovation the Imperium is famous for.
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It might be me misremembering but IIRC in Cadian Blood, the Kasrkin are noted as being both tall and bulky compared to normal Cadians.
As always though, best to wait and see what reality brings. Feels like only a few months ago people were declaring the sky had fallen because the Mk6 models were far too big and that turned out just fine.
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Tyel wrote:
Its a no from me. Worst concept GW have made in some time. Mediocre model in completely the wrong army.

How is it the wrong army though? Genuinely curious.
The Guard is an amalgamation of modern and future technology with the ethos and tactics of Napoleonic-era armies.
This dude is like space Napoleon and the model clearly takes inspiration from this painting.
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You can't tell that the model with Imperial Aquilas, cybernetics, and is standing on a Reaver Titan head is from 40k?
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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Not at first glance, no. If you can put him in an army from AoS he can probably blend in for a while.

Why though. Is it because it's a horse? Or because it's painted gold?

Cybernetics isn't that much of a tell because they aren't that obvious and you can get some weird golem stuff in AoS as well, no?

I mean the Skaven do weird stuff but no other faction does clockwork cyborgs or enhancements on biologicals.

The crest on his helmet is more similar to that sort of sun crest motif thing you see on AoS models. If they had given him a crest more like the one Solar Macharius has and a gun, maybe lean more into the cybernetic body horror on the horse, I think it would look a lot better in a 40k army.

He's the Lord Solar. What do you think the crest is meant to represent? He also has the laurels on the helm and has a gun and I'm not sure how they could have gone body horror when it has no natural legs, a robotic eye and tubes in its neck. It's got more enhancements than the Death Korps riders do. The only thing Macharius had that this model doesn't is thigh armour.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I can only speak for myself, but apart from giving off huge Fantasy vibes (which you don't seem to agree with!), the model is so, so different from any other Guard model that I can think of, meaning that it stands out like a sore thumb.

Edit:, yes, I'm aware that Rough Riders exist!

Just saying "Fantasy Vibes" doesn't actually mean anything though. Is it because the model is mounted on a horse that happens to be painted gold?

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Boosykes wrote:
Cadians need done away with there planet is gone.... LONG LIVE KREIG

And yet there were survivors of the destruction of Cadia, hundreds of Regiments serving elsewhere in the galaxy, and in the 8th Ed Codex it outlines that not only are entire Regiments born and raised on the way to various warzones but that Cadian Regiments also recruit those non-Cadians they view as worthy of the mantle.

Regardless of background, the Cadian image is generic SciFi soldier and can fairly simply be modified to produce other results. The Krieg are very much one aesthetic and also have the stigma of being associated with the worst parts of the Warhammer fandom.
Sticking with Cadians is the only real choice.
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Depending on how the updated C&M or Solar Auxilia play in HH 2, those Cadians might be an expansion of my already dangerously overstaffed Cult.
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Moving from a horde of bedraggled maniacs and expanding my more heavily armoured troops is an option.
The biggest issue is just finding time to play nowadays.
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Rough Riders, Rogal Dorn, artillery, etc all can't be used there...

Only cowards don't use cavalry on boarding actions.
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The original Aegis was good because it wasn't super Imperial in design. Want to loot it for Orks? Whack some armour plates on there and you're good to go. Need a defence line for your Iron Warriors? Stick some Chaos spikes or hang some skulls and off you go.
This has pre-made heavy battle damage and is far too Imperial in is base design to be worth converting for another army.
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Those character prices are maximum cringe.
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The Cadian arms fit the Death Korps bodies and the new shoulder pad design is more similar to the DK ones. I've seen a few people kitbash using only plastic kits and it works really well.
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I will require some of those transfer sheets because they are very lush.
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 necrontyrOG wrote:
How are there more Tanith transfers than Mordian? One planet still exists and actually used vehicles...

Novel series that makes them massively popular and actual models in the Guard range perhaps?
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Just to point out that the Tanith 1st was formed as a Light Infantry Regiment but that was around about 765.M41. By 999.M41 it's entirely reasonable to say that with both Verghast and Belladon providing more troops to the Tanith Regiment that they no longer exclusively field recon and infiltration soldiers. The founders would be long dead but the Regiment would keep on going, especially as it had reached such a famous and respected position within the Sabbat Crusade.
 
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