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2022/07/04 13:47:57
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
Gert wrote: Space Marines, it's always Space Marines and it will never not be Space Marines.
So, I thought that too, but they've already done that in every way. UM vs Tyranids, SWs vs I forget, IF vs Daemons. I think 9th was a step in a new direction. Sisters vs Necrons. Space Marines just dropped alongside. But the two starter factions were absolutely sisters and Necros.
2022/07/04 13:59:33
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
One side will certainly be space marines, and they will be paired with someone (relatively) evil looking. So I wouldn't expect craftworlders or Tau or the like. That narrows it down to the various Chaos things, Dark Eldar, Tyranids, Necrons, Orks, and, uhm, who else is left at this point?
This edition had Necrons, so those are out. And I also wouldn't expect the Death Guard to come out again so soon. Oh. And Chaos Knights are out because they don't really make for a starter box army.
Spacemarines vs Legion Slaanesh CSM would be my guess.
I think 10th is still a little way off yet. Is it once every 3 / 4 years for a new edition as of late? Possibly longer but not too sure.
Please note, for those of you who play Chaos Daemons as a faction the term "Daemon" is potentially offensive. Instead, please play codex "Chaos: Mortally Challenged". Thank you.
2022/07/04 14:02:07
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
Space Marines and Daemons would make sense. Maybe tied up with World Eaters.
Because yes - its going to be Marines. And GW are showing so little interest in Daemons that you have to assume they are in line for a big release/reimagining. But if that's after CSM/Guard/Squats/World Eaters, there won't be much of an edition left, assuming they will want 10th out in mid 2023.
2022/07/04 14:07:53
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
FezzikDaBullgryn wrote: So, I thought that too, but they've already done that in every way. UM vs Tyranids, SWs vs I forget, IF vs Daemons. I think 9th was a step in a new direction. Sisters vs Necrons. Space Marines just dropped alongside. But the two starter factions were absolutely sisters and Necros.
Doesn't matter if it's been done before, it'll get done again because Space Marines make money.
2022/07/04 14:30:54
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
Gert wrote: Space Marines, it's always Space Marines and it will never not be Space Marines.
So, I thought that too, but they've already done that in every way. UM vs Tyranids, SWs vs I forget, IF vs Daemons. I think 9th was a step in a new direction. Sisters vs Necrons. Space Marines just dropped alongside. But the two starter factions were absolutely sisters and Necros.
All the 9th starter boxes were Space Marines vs Necrons. Those were also the first two new codices. I remember there being an animation with a SoB and an Ultramarine fighting Necrons but I don't recall Sisters being a highlighted faction otherwise.
2022/07/04 14:31:52
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
2022/07/04 14:34:29
Subject: Re:First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
Gadzilla666 wrote: Loyalist Scum and......well, Fezzik didn't put "Hapless Victims" in the options, so I just threw a dart and got "Tyranids".
My dart landed in 'Daemons' but otherwise I agree.
blood reaper wrote: I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote: Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote: GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
2022/07/04 15:22:45
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
It will be generic Space Marines and whomever they are fighting in the Release/Starter box. Those always rotate, so I'm thinking Drukhari's turn will be up next. I doubt it will be any of the codexes released in 2022 or not yet released for 9th Edition.
2022/07/04 15:31:27
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
Itll be space marines of course. In aos they have rotated the sigmarines starter box opponents through the 3 main alliances so if that is a model cant see them doing chaos again after death guard in 8th). Potentially a new faction, they dont mind throwing those out there these days.
2022/07/04 15:53:08
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
FezzikDaBullgryn wrote: I think 9th was a step in a new direction. Sisters vs Necrons. Space Marines just dropped alongside. But the two starter factions were absolutely sisters and Necros.
Is your hobby "Being factually wrong about 40k"?
I mean, you can look this info up. You can check publication & release dates. You don't HAVE to be wrong on about every 3rd thing you say.....
2022/07/04 16:02:10
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
The interesting thing is that there aren't many factions left that need an overhaul or an expansion. Loyalist Space Marines are a given unfortunately, even though Guard would make much more sense because they could need the support you get when you're in the Starterbox.
As for the opponent? Maybe a second wave of Squads. Maybe World Eaters. Dark Eldar could surely need some new stuff in the form of HQs and they have a lot of Failcast remaining.
Daemons are unlikely, they got a lot of plastic recently through AoS, I think Epidemius is the only Failcast model left.
Long story short: my money is on World Eaters, Dark Eldar or Imperial Guard. Guard is more a wish.
2022/07/04 16:14:17
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
GW seems to take what they've done in AoS and use it as a rough guide for 40K. For example, the 2nd edition AOS had Path-to-Glory and Casts'vs'Nighthaunts. It also saw the return of High Elves. 9th edition 40K introduced Crusade, Marines'vs'Necrons, the long awaited update to the Eldar Craftworlds range....
At the moment AoS has Casts vs Kruleboyz which is part of the Ork Battletome. I'm guessing that Marines are going to receive a sci-fi counterpart to the Dragon Princes and Thunderstrikes; maybe their own version of a Knight and Primaris Terminators. Probably "Nasty Boyz" with....I dunno, zapping captured Tyranids into doing their bidding.
Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
2022/07/04 17:01:52
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
FezzikDaBullgryn wrote: So, I thought that too, but they've already done that in every way. UM vs Tyranids, SWs vs I forget, IF vs Daemons. I think 9th was a step in a new direction. Sisters vs Necrons. Space Marines just dropped alongside. But the two starter factions were absolutely sisters and Necros.
Not sure if you are joking, but you are wildly wrong. SW, IF, Daemons, Sisters... none of these were ever in a 40K starter.
40K had the following armies in its starter sets:
Rogue Trader (1st edition, but not really 1st edition) had no such set
2nd edition had Space Marines and Orks. The Marines were Blood Angels on the cover, but the models had no molded iconography.
3rd edition hat Space Marines and Dark Eldar. Black Templars were on the cover, but the models were generic again.
4th edition had "Battle for Macragge" with Space Marines and Tyranids. Despite the name and cover, the Marines were still generic.
5th edition had "Assault on Black Reach" with Space Marines and Orks. All models were unique, but the Marines were Ultramarines in art only - the models were still chapter-agnostic.
6th and 7th edition had (basically) the same starter set, named "Dark Vengeance" with Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines. The Merines were Dark Angels with sculpted chapter details.
8th edition had "Dark Imperium" with Space Marines and Death Guard. Despite being Ultramarines in background and art, the Marine sculpts were generic again.
Finally 9th edition had no special name, and Space Marines aganst Necrons - and generic Marine sculpts yet again.
GW seems to take what they've done in AoS and use it as a rough guide for 40K. For example, the 2nd edition AOS had Path-to-Glory and Casts'vs'Nighthaunts. It also saw the return of High Elves. 9th edition 40K introduced Crusade, Marines'vs'Necrons, the long awaited update to the Eldar Craftworlds range....
At the moment AoS has Casts vs Kruleboyz which is part of the Ork Battletome. I'm guessing that Marines are going to receive a sci-fi counterpart to the Dragon Princes and Thunderstrikes; maybe their own version of a Knight and Primaris Terminators. Probably "Nasty Boyz" with....I dunno, zapping captured Tyranids into doing their bidding.
Orks had a substantial release this edition, it seems unlikely to me. Especially since the last two starters were very large waves of releases, Orks don't really need that. And another subfaction like Kruleboyz after they just brought Beast Snaggas(and not long before that Evil Sunz) is, again, unlikely.
2022/07/04 18:16:38
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
I could see SMs and World Eaters in a 10th Ed starter set. Space Marines, because every edition launches with SMs. With the new CSM codex not including WEs, the WE codex could be held back until they launch 10th with a new range of WE models. Very much akin to Death Guard in 8th.
2022/07/04 18:29:56
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
I was going by the widely held understanding that Sisters came out in January 2021, The BRB dropped June 2022. They knew Sisters would be part of 9th, ergo, Sisters were the first codex dropped in 9th. I know this doesn't fit the time line of exact perfection, but Developer commentary indicated that they planned sisters to be part of the next edition in mind. Which is why they performed so well at start.
It's amazing how absolutely out of sorts some of you get when someone says something you disagree with. Continue to rage at the keyboard.
2022/07/04 18:30:43
Subject: Re:First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
Orks had a substantial release this edition, it seems unlikely to me. Especially since the last two starters were very large waves of releases, Orks don't really need that. And another subfaction like Kruleboyz after they just brought Beast Snaggas(and not long before that Evil Sunz) is, again, unlikely.
Well, depends if they want to do anything with the Gretchin beyond being Point Fillas. Orks were never my cup of tea, besides Space Crusade, so I don't know if there is a demand for a Gretchin-only faction. I'll let the Ork players answer that one.
Personally I'd be over the moon with Tyranids. The Hormagaunts keep falling over and word on the street is that Genestealers aren't cutting it these days, while Genecults could probably do with their own purestrain kit. And ooooh lordy the Termagants are from 2000! And lastly...Lictors. Death Leapers. The Red Terror. Still in resin.
And It also feels like a new print run of Space Hulk should be doing the round soon...
Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
2022/07/04 18:36:49
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
I wanted to say the lore would create a new Heresy, what with Gman openly seeming to question the motives of his father and suggest they form a group to deal with that....
I'd love to see Astartes v Astartes again.
2022/07/04 18:48:46
Subject: First two Factions to drop for 10th will be?
Orks had a substantial release this edition, it seems unlikely to me. Especially since the last two starters were very large waves of releases, Orks don't really need that. And another subfaction like Kruleboyz after they just brought Beast Snaggas(and not long before that Evil Sunz) is, again, unlikely.
Well, depends if they want to do anything with the Gretchin beyond being Point Fillas. Orks were never my cup of tea, besides Space Crusade, so I don't know if there is a demand for a Gretchin-only faction. I'll let the Ork players answer that one.
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And It also feels like a new print run of Space Hulk should be doing the round soon...
I'd be especially down for Grot-centric/only faction, it's almost like they've done that before ...
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