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Hellacious Havoc




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Newbie here. Can some tell me How many terminators wholly fit within 6” of one character.
   
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What base size does the character have ? Is it 25mm, 160mm, 120x92mm base ? What base size will the termis have ? 32, 40, 50, 60mm ?

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The standard Space Marine terminators box comes with 40mm bases. Many Space Marine character models also come with 40mm bases (e.g. Primaris Captain, Captain in Terminator Armor), though some like the Tech Marine have smaller ones.

My picture below is not entirely neat or to scale but should give you an idea. If you arrange terminators around the character in a perfect 7x7 grid then only the four corner models will not be wholly within 6". Also discounting the character himself leaves 44 terminators. You can almost certainly cram another two along each edge by placing them outside of the grid pattern, which would allow 52 in total. Deviating from the perfect grid may allow you to get a couple more in there somehow. However, this assumes that none of the models overlap their bases at all and that you have a large, open area to deploy into. In most cases there will be terrain in the way. It would also be almost impossible to move and retain this formation.

In practical terms, getting to 52 would require you to take at least 6 units of terminators. Some settings don't allow you to take the same datasheet in your army more than three times, so you might need a mix of regular terminators, assault terminators and relic terminators. You can't fit six elite slots into a regular detachment so you will need to pay extra command points in one way or another. Also, terminator costs vary depending on equipment but 52 of them are roughly going to cost a little over 2000 points on their own. This is to say nothing of the tactical folly of fielding an army with nothing but slow terminators. In other words, you can fit more terminators than it would every be practical to take.

Of course, the 40k rules almost never refer to 'models wholly within' a certain distance so I am not sure how any of this is relevant. Most aura-type rules just say 'units within' a certain distance, which would give you much more flexibility. In most cases you could easily arrange for two 10-man terminator squads to be within six inches of a character whilst still being able to move and avoid terrain. Three or more units may be possible if you position things very carefully and sacrifice a bit of movement.

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Thanks Bilge Rat that was informative.

It is for:

If this prayer is heard, then while a friendly <LEGION> CORE, <LEGION> CHARACTER or <LEGION> CULTISTS unit is wholly within 6" of this PRIEST, each time a ranged attack is made against that unit, it is treated as having the benefits of Light Cover against that attack.

The Dark Apostle is on a 40mm but does come with two 25mm side kicks.

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Thanks Eight. That is exactly what I’m trying to know. If I had a Dark Apostle with his 2 side kicks, would I still be able get 5 or 10 terminators wholly within 6” to use benediction of darkness
   
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 IwinUlose wrote:
Thanks Eight. That is exactly what I’m trying to know. If I had a Dark Apostle with his 2 side kicks, would I still be able get 5 or 10 terminators wholly within 6” to use benediction of darkness
Judging by the pic above, it seems you can get at least 30 terminators, given they have 40mm bases, in range.

So getting 5 or 10 terminators wholly within 6” shouldn't be an issue for a unit of 3 models like the Dark Apostle with his 2 relic-bearing Dark Disciples.

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 IwinUlose wrote:
Thanks Eight. That is exactly what I’m trying to know. If I had a Dark Apostle with his 2 side kicks, would I still be able get 5 or 10 terminators wholly within 6” to use benediction of darkness

Yes, easily.

8930 points 6800 points 75 points 600 points
2810 points 5740 points 2650 points 3275 points
55 points 640 points 1840 points 435 points
2990 points 700 points 2235 points 1935 points
3460 points 1595 points 2480 points 2895 points
 
   
 
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