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What do Hercules, Professor X, Mr Fantastic, Shang Chi, Kang, Narmor and the Eternals all have in common apart from the fact that they haven’t yet appeared in Crisis Protocol? That they’re all some of the most recent characters to feature in the MCU. My bet is that Disney has a different licensing contract for these characters than it had for all the ones that appeared earlier, that they’ve got a stranglehold on the merchandising and won’t let Atomic Mass Games produce minis. They probably have the same for Silver Surfer and Doom and the rest of the FF. If I’m right those minis may never make an appearance in the game. What a shame….

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Given how long it took for some classic characters like Rhino and the like to show up it's quite possible they've just got a long pipeline to deal with. Along with making sure old affiliations get updates and the like some new affiliations like Eternals may take a bit longer.

There are no license limits from what I've heard in interviews. It just comes down to what the devs are interested in and focused on and more than a bit of trying to time releases with spikes in popularity.

That list of characters is after all, pretty obscure, even among comic fans and their MCU debuts are only starting to change that. A lot of them also don't really fit all that cleanly on teams quite yet. F4 is the big exception of course, but I suspect that's also kind of by design. Their first big set of releases was very Infinity Saga focused; Thanos, Avengers, etc. The second era of the game has been driven by 90's cartoons. X-Men, Spidey villains, etc. I suspect F4, Doom, Kang and the like are well suited to carrying a third major era of the game and I don't doubt they'd love to see that happen around the time of a major relaunch of the characters that we all know is on the horizon.

I hope you’re right. I’d love to see most of these characters come to the game - especially FF, Doom and Hercules (but I wouldn’t say my list was obscure. I’m not a big comic reader and all of these were on my radar. Many of the ones that have been made for the game I’d never heard of)

The FF and Doom are in at least 2 campaigns of Marvel United as well as the Marvel Zombies board game(s).

Professor X & Namor are also in Marvel Zombies.

Not sure anyone cared about the Eternals before their movie - and probabaly fewer people do now, so perhaps not the greatest investement of time and effort for a financial return

Not sure what the Zombies thing has to do with it. I hope that it somehow proves I'm wrong though and that these characters will appear in CP.

I wish there were more 3P sculpts/molds for this game; I'd play the gak out of it if you could run obscure stuff like New Universe or Ultraverse characters.

Jandgalf wrote:
Not sure what the Zombies thing has to do with it. I hope that it somehow proves I'm wrong though and that these characters will appear in CP.

They're mixed in with a huge number of other Marvel characters in a pair of current/upcoming games (Marvel Zombies/Marvel United) both of which use miniatures.

That's "what it has to do with it."

Has very little to do with whatever deal Atomic Mass Games has signed though does it?

Everything in this thread is wildly speculative.

Pointing out that a company with a license to make a game based on Marvel IP is using characters that a different company hasn't used yet is a way to speculate that Disney isn't preventing characters from recent or as yet unreleased films to be used for games.

Could CMON and AMG have different restrictions? Sure.

AMG is part of Asmodee and Asmodee also has FFG and Space Cowboys and Z-Man Games. None of the games I see under Asmodee have the FF. Maybe Disney is preventing them from being used, or possible Asmodee is directing its subsidiaries to avoid the FF until the movie comes out so they can ride that wave of buzz. No way to know for certain.

Jandgalf wrote:
Has very little to do with whatever deal Atomic Mass Games has signed though does it?

Your speculation that a different licencing deal applies to characters X, Y and Z is pretty much just conjecture pulled out of your ...imagination, though - isn't it?

Especially with no actual information or rationale or logic to it. Witness your rather stretched point regarding Professor X, despite a ton of other X-Men being out and still in the process of coming out (Emma Frost/Psylocke incoming, Logan/Sabre just released, Juggernaut just released), and I'll throw you a Black Bolt in return. There's no Captain Carter in MCP yet - maybe that's a specific licencing issue as well? Namor? Sandman? Vulture? Electro? Captain Britain? Falcon? Mephisto? Silver Surfer? Echo? US Agent? Molecule Man? As bbb suggests, there's ....quite a few Marvel characters that haven't been released in MCP that may or may not have been in a new or old TV show or Film.

Or to put it another way, there's no reason to respond like a defensive dick when you're really just randomly speculating and another poster shows that other games/licenced products are using those very same IPs concurrently with right now. You go and believe whatever silly stuff you want to make up in your head, and I'll throw you on ignore since you just keep responding in the same way when your OP proposition is challenged in any way...

Can’t believe the flack I’m getting for this. I thought this was supposed to be a fun gaming forum!I don’t think what I’m saying is just wild speculation - I think I’ve noticed a pattern that the biggest characters still missing from Crisis Protocol all happen to be the ones who have either been last to appear in the MCU or still haven’t appeared. The only exception I can see are the X-Men. Maybe I’m completely wrong - and I hope so because I’d like these characters to appear - but there’s no need to call me a “dick” just for trying to have a discussion. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but I’ve argued a case. I’ve clearly touched a nerve. It’s also a bit odd to get so worked up and write such a long reply to tell me that because you don’t like my idea you’re ignoring me. If that’s ignoring me I’d hate to see what you’d do if you want to get into a fight!

Jandgalf wrote:
...Can’t believe the flack I’m getting for this. I thought this was supposed to be a fun gaming forum!...

You're new here, aren't you?

As to the original question I suspect what characters get done are a combination of a) what characters market research tells them are popular, b) what characters the dev team thinks are coolest, c) what characters the dev teams have good model/rules ideas for, and d) maybe characters their licensing liaison people from Marvel tell them they should do, and what characters actually end up happening are due to some intersection of those factors rather than a specific plan to coordinate with the MCU. I've also heard that the way their development process works if a character isn't working the way they want in playtesting they'll hold them back to keep working on them rather than release them when they don't think they're finished.

I also have a friend who's convinced they're saving the Fantastic 4 for the 4th anniversary of the game, but this is pure speculation.

Jandgalf wrote:
Can’t believe the flack I’m getting for this. I thought this was supposed to be a fun gaming forum!I don’t think what I’m saying is just wild speculation - I think I’ve noticed a pattern that the biggest characters still missing from Crisis Protocol all happen to be the ones who have either been last to appear in the MCU or still haven’t appeared. The only exception I can see are the X-Men. Maybe I’m completely wrong - and I hope so because I’d like these characters to appear - but there’s no need to call me a “dick” just for trying to have a discussion. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but I’ve argued a case. I’ve clearly touched a nerve. It’s also a bit odd to get so worked up and write such a long reply to tell me that because you don’t like my idea you’re ignoring me. If that’s ignoring me I’d hate to see what you’d do if you want to get into a fight!

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The dismissive manner you write one-line responses like "Not sure what the Zombies thing has to do with it." or "Has very little to do with whatever deal Atomic Mass Games has signed though does it?" in reply to reasonable discussion points indeed comes across as dickish towards someone trying to engage you in conversation on the post that you started.

It's not a discussion or even an attempt to do so. It's a dismissal of an opinion based on pretty much nothing in a pretty rude manner both times. If you were pleasant or offered some sort of discussion as a response, I would have replied very differently. You might want to work on your written interpersonal skills for as an investment in future interactions. And yeah, you pissed me off by being rude for me to write up that rebuttal pointing out that there's some major logical flaws with your argument (Prof X, Black Bolt) and then throw you on ignore. I checked your response out and decided to explain why I replied in the manner that I did. I'll probably click the button to check what your next response is at some stage, and then I'll either bin you completely or take you off ignore.

 AnomanderRake wrote:

I also have a friend who's convinced they're saving the Fantastic 4 for the 4th anniversary of the game, but this is pure speculation.

I wouldn't be surprised to see FF come out alongside their film, though 2025 is a long way off in a lot of ways for a licenced minis game...

This ignoring thing’s going well isn’t it? Life’s too short to get worked up about this nonsense. I still think I’m on to something with my idea - hoping not because I’d love to see these characters as minis - for some reason I can’t begin to fathom the idea seems to have upset you. By the way Crisis Protocol doesn’t have a Professor X either! BlackBolt is just one character against my whole list and might, sadly, not be relevant if he’s one that the MCU isn’t thinking of developing

Wonder-Man - there’s another. No mini, but upcoming series

Well, we've seen Prof X show up at Adepticon.

It is a classic Xavier from the Mutant Genesis era (1991- the end of the Clairmont run and the era the cartoon was based on).

We've also seen MCP get around to some cult favorite characters like Squirrel Girl and Gwenpool.


The well of Marvel characters is infinitely deep- but I kind of see CMON's Marvel United and other Marvel games as a glimpse into the future telling us which characters are likely to be featured in MCP.

Great news to see Professor X but Squirrel Girl and Gwenpool perfectly fit my theory. They’re fringe characters that there’s not much likelihood of them appearing in the MCU. When a couple of the other on my list appear I’ll be happy.

And here’s hoping if they ever do Namor it’s the comic book version and not the one from Wakanda Forever who had nothing whatsoever to do with the character apart from enjoying a bit of a swim.

Jandgalf wrote:
Great news to see Professor X but Squirrel Girl and Gwenpool perfectly fit my theory. They’re fringe characters that there’s not much likelihood of them appearing in the MCU. When a couple of the other on my list appear I’ll be happy.

And here’s hoping if they ever do Namor it’s the comic book version and not the one from Wakanda Forever who had nothing whatsoever to do with the character apart from enjoying a bit of a swim.

And hating Wakanda.

But I wouldn't worry. It is clear that FFG have the rights to adopt the comic book versions of the characters and not the rights to adopt the film versions of the characters (just like Spinmaster has). They might pick the comic versions that are similar to the films, but they still need to go with comics.