Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023

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**NoseGoblin**

Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Gallahad wrote:
I think it is probably best to just ignore the hot conspiracy takes that amount to "ThEy ChOsE tHe SaMe NuMbEr Of VoTeS aS oThEr CoMpAnY!!!"

That seems to be as deep, if not deeper, catalog than WGA at 38 (including the bases set and the loose accessory sprue) unless I am missing something. Or are you including the STL side of things? I mention it because it was something I learned reading that wiki. I had not realized WGF had made so many kits.

I realize that evidence dug up by other people has already established WGF and WGA are different companies but when I try to promote WGA it is often brought up by people in conversation that they wonder about the similarities between the appearance of the companies and products. I seem to recall Mark Mondragon (aka Nosegoblin) said here on Dakka Dakka in the earlier WGA news and rumor thread at one point that WGA is neither WGF nor Dreamforge but merely used some of the same artists.

Yet some folks want to know more about what, if any, connections exist between WGA and both WGF and Dreamforge. Or if WGA is some sort of evolution of what was formerly WGF. Sort of like how Fallout has been made by an evolution of companies and original designers who worked for various different companies in that evolution.

Think of it as rumor control. Putting rumors to bed and dispelling concerns. I have broadly promoted WGA and been very active on their forum. I want to see WGA do well and there is plenty of evidence of that. I believe the best way to deal with rumors or concerns is to dispel them with more than just “we are different companies”, such as explaining why specific similarities exist.

WGA has nothing to do with WGF.

WGF started under another owner (union league days) who ran into some issues I will not cover here... They then were taken over by the tool maker in China, the same folks I partnered with to get the kick-starter done. WGF then later decided to get out of mini's to do more profitable ventures, sold IP and molds to another company (not WGA) and that was the end of WGF.

WGA is run by a totally unrelated person. I license my kits to WGA for production and he primarily makes his own line of kits... Given the limited time of WGA in this space, he is doing stellar work in quantity and quality.

Thats the skinny...

**NoseGoblin**

I take it that other company the Chinese company sold designs to will be Warlord Games.

https://www.warlordgames.com/wargames-factory-sprues-released/

That is correct.

**NoseGoblin**

Grumpy Gnome wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Haven’t they said they hired artists and sculptors who previously worked with WGF? So the similarities aren’t any more sinister than the similarities between Mantic’s Enforcers’ weapons and Sedition Wars’ weapons, resulting from Mantic hiring the same artist as McVey.

If so, why not give the artists some public acknowledgment?

I'm not saying this because I know something, just an outside, uninformed observation... Even GW stopped acknowledging individual artists after the Chapterhouse lawsuit because it left open a legal argument about 'ownership' and caused a good portion of their case to get tossed.

I would suspect, its more about branding and cohesion this IS WARGAMES ATLANTIC not WGA starring .... and.... and.... and if I had independent modelers working for me, I would think long and hard about how I put that out there. There are just a ton of issues that can arise when there is no need to even go there.

The only reason I have billing is because they were existing kits, they are my IP and most people know the mini's.

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