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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I think it's worth mentioning that fantasy races being stereotypes is in many ways a useful convenience.

First off it's a reaction to the pulp fiction trope of 'savage foreigners'. Sometimes in heroic fiction you just want the hero to be able to lay into a bunch of villains without regard for their humanity. In pulp fiction those cannon fodder villains would usually be foreigners, I've seen Africans, Pacific Islanders, Tibetans, Picts and Eskimos (!!) used in this role.

Replacing real world groups with fictional orcs, goblins, drow, zombies etc allows writers to have their big action scene with no moral qualms.

No mention of the early D&D art and related miniatures playing-up stereo-typical racial and cultural characteristics for creeps and baddies (take a look at the old school Hobgoblins) for example. An why do dwarves always gotta be raucous Scots or Welsh?

I guess atonement has coming: https://www.denofgeek.com/games/dungeons-and-dragons-half-race-changes-racism-controversy/

I remember when Elf was a class.

I miss Oriental Adventures.

LOL I remember when artists were crying about digital media, painting on a tablet instead of with brushes.

It's the same thing that has occurred every time media gets easier to process. Before you could paint with a tablet without knowing technique it became a worry within the fine or visual arts, prior to that it was commercial art that went through an earlier revolution.

Production art used to be done by hand, go look at ancient White Dwarf magazines and the like. Typsetting, typography all that, used to be measured up and eye-balled before there were Apple computers which took the labor out of it.

What did those poor production artists do? They quit or adapted. Same with music going from analog to digital, and photography as well, people were always bent over change. Claiming it wasn't pure.

Good AI will create like human beings and it does right now. Poor AI is like someone with an Internet connection who copies images into Photoshop to edit or enhance them. No different really.

And besides there's so many ways you can copy that and reproduce right now without AI. Ever heard of "Steal Like an Artist"?

 Altruizine wrote:

 Adeptekon wrote:

Good AI will create like human beings and it does right now. Poor AI is like someone with an Internet connection who copies images into Photoshop to edit or enhance them. No different really.

This seems.... generous. As far as I'm aware there is no image-generating AI that could produce anything of value without having been trained on images created by human artists.

So there's couple types of "artists" here, the kind that I gave an example of: a photoshop hack with an eye for things (granted there are true photoshop adepts) and someone who can natural reproduce imagery they're taking in through a familiar outlet (their hands and a stick) and medium sand, chalk, stones, etc. Otherwise it's exactly what we're doing except the AI has all the images it needs already, no hunting for inspiration for your art assignment. It's probably seen more things than you have.

My bad, got carried away thinking I was in one of the other AI topics.