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That set does seem like the most logical follow-up for the Hunt for the Prometheus Enlightened half.

You'll pretty much have every flagship covered, 5 plastic frontline sprues, 2 support sprues and 2 new sprues (whatever they will be called).

Even if you had to get the whole Hun for the Prometheus box set and just sit on the Commonwealth half, that is an insane amount of models out of a €200 ish investment.

That would be 45 models (some of which are absolutely huge and not counting the Russian ships), the rulebook, 52 dice, 2 template sets and 2 playing card decks. Take note Privateer Press...

But oh man, I'm really not big on the Commonwealth's Colossi, the arms just look like bad sculpts, being so square.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Thanks!
It really is enormous, innit?

Well, every fleet will have a box this size (resin mass 3+ and 6 plastic sprues) by mid 2023. This one wins on variety so far with all 3 faction sprues present, but the Black Wolf one probably still wins on points value as it has two Mass 3 ships on the plastic sprues in addition to the resin chonker.

Agreed on the Colossi, I'm thinking maybe I sculpt new arms.


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 Elmir wrote:

Even if you had to get the whole Hun for the Prometheus box set and just sit on the Commonwealth half, that is an insane amount of models out of a €200 ish investment.

Well funnily I am sitting on the Enlightened half of the starter as I play Commonwealth main. This is dangerously close to getting me into a second faction.

The Archimedes set is awesome! That's a huge amount of variety and ships for a faction that's honestly been in the back a bit. I love that new resin ship!
The centipedes are smaller than I thought they'd be and perhaps its just because we only have the upper body and no lenghtly back or landpart, they seem a little like they are missing something on the lower part; but they look very cool bent over to tear into a ship.
The smaller supportships also have what I feel a lot of the newer Dwars have lacked - lots of pipes and such! And they've got them in buckets!
Subs, whales, ships, tokens, mechs and a capital ship. I can see that set being very popular! Plus with all the varied builds its got value being bought at least twice over.

I think with the Russian what they've gone for is a mech that's really very crude compared to the other factions. It lacks grace or finnese. It's a mech built by a faction who aren't mech builders building one out of nessessity. Crude but powerful.
I do agree the arms look a bit cheap, but I think painted up they will look fine. It's just the cruder design coming out.
Interesting that there's 3 in the boxed set!


Finally I know there's going to be a lot of Prussian players eager for the Scandinavian ships which bring some of the classic sleek battleship designs from the past into the modern plastics.

 Overread wrote:

I think with the Russian what they've gone for is a mech that's really very crude compared to the other factions. It lacks grace or finnese. It's a mech built by a faction who aren't mech builders building one out of nessessity. Crude but powerful.
I do agree the arms look a bit cheap, but I think painted up they will look fine. It's just the cruder design coming out.
Interesting that there's 3 in the boxed set!

The arms don't really look like they mesh well with the rest of the design either, the head and body are still somewhat sleek and curved, tbh. They just look a bit ill-fitting because of that, at least to me.

Some other interesting tidbits:

The frigate included on the Russian colossal sprue is the Boyar heavy frigate. Same hull as the basic Rurik, with a new bridge and a standard small turret hardpoint on the deck instead of the molded on seismic mortar. The sprue will also have small sized guns, rockets and railguns so the Boyar can have any of these on the prow (and a rocket battery on the bridge). If you want a seismic mortar Boyar, you can put the Boyar bridge on a Rurik deck, and you can put a Rurik bridge on the Boyar deck to build a Rurik with something other than the mortar.

There will also be another vessel with a bridge that is swappable with the Rurik and Boyar on the next next Russian sprue (believed to be their aereal fleet sprue)

It seems that the new Orbat will allow any build that is physically possible even if parts from multiple box sets are required.

I'm totally ok with them mix-matching sets like that. Heck I expected it with how they did weapon sets and I would not be shocked to see weapon/generator expansions in the future. Esp as the game evolves and develops.

As long as those kits that prove to have a lot of swappable parts are put into cheaper packs not just mega-fleet packs and such. Or even put the common kits that can swap around between each other; into dedicated sets.

I am happy with it too, it gives more unit variety in the same amount of manufacturing capacity. I would even be happy with dedicated upgrade parts on sprue B for models on sprue A since the model and list building is such that you are going to have many copies of each sprue anyway.

So far every new sprue has gotten its own solo box a month after its debut in a battlefleet box.

The game is also remarkably cheap per sprue and per game element (ship) but with the assumption that you're going to buy a lot of copies to build all the options, and that's... well, probably the best sales model we could wish for.

It seems that the new Orbat will allow any build that is physically possible even if parts from multiple box sets are required.

Well that gives me pause. As someone who wanted to collect "a little bit of everything", things just went from needing to build a finite number of ships to a potentially infinite number of them.

I see it more like not being 40k style locked into just the weapons in the box and you get some extra loadouts that make sense but aren't possible out of the box because the space wasn't there to put every weapon on every sprue. Specifically Commonwealth suffered a bit right now because there's no small gun turret on either the Frontline or Support sprue, it's coming on the Colossal sprue but it makes no sense for their cruisers to not be able to take gun turrets.

Sure, I'm just concerned about variation bloat. Its not a problem to me to say "take these bits from this other kit and mix n match". It is a problem to say "if the parts fit together then its a legal build". The more cruisers Warcradle releases, the more potential variations there as you start to mix n match different parts together in different congifurations.

Ah, that was only my own poor phrasing of my interpretation of Warcradle's intenetions.

With September almost upon us that can only mean one thing, more new releases for Dystopian Wars and Warcradle Scenics that will be available to pre-order soon.

The distinct whir of technology can be heard as the Enlightened power up the advanced weaponry found in the Archimedes Battlefleet Set. The marvels of the Enlightened are on full display as the Archimedes begins to impress, confuse and decimate.

Ready to take a ‘swing’ at the competition, the Commonwealth are employing the use of their own Vitruvian Colossi to ‘cut’ to the chase and assure victory with the Marena Battlefleet Set. Reinforcements inbound as the Scandinavian Frontline Squadrons offer any Ragnarok Battlefleet more firepower.

Available for the first time as individual terrain kits, the Red Oak Town Set 2 and Estun Village Sets offer you the perfect backdrop for any wargame.

Due to be released at the end of September 2022.



Dystopian Wars

There’s lots of new pre-orders for Dystopian Wars this month as the Enlightened launch the Archimedes Battlefleet Set, the Marena provides exceptional power to the Commonwealth and the Scandinavian Frontline Squadrons enhance the Ragnarok Battlefleet.

Archimedes Battlefleet Set



Science marches onwards as the Archimedes gets ready to put on a show. This gigantic set showcases the latest advancements in technology with a wide array of impressive weaponry and serves as a perfect way to start an Enlightened fleet.

A flagship of the Enlightened fleet, Vault ships were conceived as massive floating platforms to deploy their larger engineering and scientific marvels. In this manner, the Archimedes class is usually fitted with either a Callimachus Chrono-Lathe or Diophantus Chaos-Orb, both so intricate and sophisticated in their crafting that like much that is not understood in the Dystopian Age, they are considered magical by the uneducated.

This box contains:

1 x Archimedes Vault Ship (can also be built as either The Shneider or Nansen Class ship)
2 x Advance Cruiser (can be built as either a Newton, Zumeena, Vesalius or Origen Class ship)
2 x Support Cruiser (can be built as either a Plinius, Tacitus. Claudius or Quintilian Class ship)
2 x Frontline Cruiser (can be built as either a Stiletto, Lovelace, Copernicus, Antarctica, Chatalet or Ulysses Class ship)
2 x Assault Machine (can be built as either a Ketos or Lotan Class machine)
2 x Enlightened Escort
6 x Merian (can also be built as a Germain Zebek)
6 x Submarine (can be built as either a Praxilla or Diogenes Class ship)
2 x Orka Token
2 x Physeter Token
2 x SRS Token

Marena Battlefleet Set



More Vitruvian Colossi are set to emerge from the murky depths, ready to lower its deadly axe on any unsuspecting vessel. That’s right, the Marena Battlefleet Set is here to continue the destruction that the Hochmeister Vitruvian Colossi started, but this time for the Commonwealth.

The Marena Vitruvian Colossus is a wonder of engineering that inspires ice-cold fear in the hearts of the enemies of the Commonwealth. A towering sight on land and no less impressive at sea, it is as versatile as it is imposing.

Its Mag-Rail Axe can be used to make crushing attacks that rain down upon enemy vessels or be launched at range causing a magnetic field that can stick a vessel on its current course. This can be particularly troublesome when combined with the Cryo-Generator that stands as the head of the machine, creating icebergs ahead of the opposing craft that it now may find itself impossible to avoid.

This box contains:

3 x Marena Vitruvian Colossus (can also be built as Kostroma Vitruvian Colossus)
6 x Boyar Heavy Frigate


Scandinavian Frontline Squadrons



The Scandinavians are a group of proud naval nations in the Imperium. Their vessels are fabricated primarily by the Norwegians at Akers Mekaniske Verksted. This large shipyard produces huge numbers of Hoth Heavy Corvettes for use by the Scandinavians throughout the Imperium’s fleets.

This box contains:

2 x Jotunn Assault Reaver (can alternatively be built as an Odin Reaver or a Gungnir Light Reaver)
4 x Hoth Heavy Corvettes

Warcradle Scenics

This month the Red Oak Town Set 2 and Estun Village Set will be available as separate terrain kits. Now that they are being offered as individual kits you can outfit your Red Oak Town or Estun Village as you envision it.



Red Oak

Create the perfect backdrop to host gunfights and saloon brawls that spill out onto the streets of Red Oak with the range or Red Oak individual terrain kits seen in the Red Oak Town Set 2.

Estun Village

Perfect for all your favourite fantasy wargames such as Frostgrave and Elder Scrolls: Call to Arms, create your ideal settlement with the range of Estun Village individual terrain kits



There’s a massive amount coming to Dystopian Wars and Warcradle Scenics soon. What are you looking forward to the most? Make sure not to miss out when they go live for pre-order on the 26th of August 2022 at your FLGS or Wayland Games Online.

Keep up to date with all the latest news and releases on the Warcradle Studios Blog and socials, including Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.

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I, for one, really like the look of the Marena colossi; they look like something that has been designed by necessity; heavy walking T-34 vibes. Even the pilot house is in the chest, because it made the most cost-saving sense to put the existing Cryo-Generator on top. The hands were just outsourced to a mining equipment company, because again - using a proven design.
... how much I dislike the look of the Union robot might be telling on my part though.

Is there going to be anything new for WWX? Our FLGS is wanting to get back into it in September, however people feel a little wary for some reason that like Mythos, there won't be any support for a while now that Dystopian Wars is the main thing focused on

It is my understanding that Dystopian Wars has hijacked WWX development/production slots for the next 9 months or so.

Kinda makes me feel that WC needs more staff/machines Come on Wayland invest in them more (come on rest of you buy more stuff )

One of the things that killed Spartan was a constantly shifting release window where Game X would get all the attention for a few months then get ignored for game Y then game Z then they'd release new game A instead of at least going back to X.


Of course its hard; Dystopian Wars seriously needs development slots more than WWX in a sense as WWX at least has quite well fleshed out forces right now; whilst Dystopian Wars is still finding its feet again.

September releases are now available to pre-order!

Make sure to check out the Warcradle Studios Blog for more information.

So, how many Colossi do I need...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So, how many Colossi do I need...

With my Imperium, I just went for 2 boxes to make both types of Colossi.... You can never really have enough smashy robots in my book!

Rulebook updated from version 1.02 to 3.03

(I guess 0.01 worth of upgrades plus acknowledging two Spartan editions)

https://www.dystopianwars.com/rules

Orbats in another hour or so.

All ORBATS are now updated and available for free on the website.

Although it's a massive amount of work to do it this way, it is the most fair way to do it, to avoid a lot of powercreep over time. And even then, some late player feedback was still taken into account for some final tweaks. Solid work from Warcradle Studios.

The sketch art for the new Spanish fleet (obviously part of the Latin alliance) is my personal highlight of all the little sneak peaks in there:

This picture was recently posted on the Warcradle social media... Looks like the aerial units are definitely ramping up now!



This pretty much looks like the model they teased at the beginning of the year as a render:

Looks like a carrier/artillery dual build

I've a feeling next year will be a big year for DWars in terms of core factions getting lots of fancy cool toys and airships. We are mostly through the core-fleets part for most factions so onto the fancy toys!

We've seen a lot of spoilers this week in the form of new unit entries in orbats. Probably most of what we can expect during the "big push" of double monthly releases until mid 2023. Box compositions and even sprue layouts can often be inferred. Even new play modes can be inferred from specialist units like immobile battle stations and troop landing ships.

I look forward to more airships to play with!

The Japanese tentacle monster came early!

https://twitter.com/warcradlestudio/status/1569642125725257728

YAY!!