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Any word if the Ynnari HQ can go in DE transports? Atleast if you pair them with DE troups as a bodygaurd?

I can see either side TBH. Raw tells me no since Yvraine isn't Drukhari Infantry but interpretation tells me it should be fine since it wouldn't make sense for DE to be Ynnari bodygaurds otherwise. Maybe I've missed some fine print somewhere...

In a perfect world all faction keywords become Ynnari and I can stick Wraithgaurd/blade in Raiders But I don't think this is the case...

I don't see any rule allowing her. She is not a Drukhari Infantry model.

Does it require the keywords? The unit has all keywords of the models.

Yes. It requires the model to have the keyword, not the unit.

The DE are faction DE and their transports require DE infantry. Yvraine is Aeldari not DE... My thought was maybe when she joins the unit the faction keywords are shared like toughness's are. IMO this makes sense since otherwise your DE+Yvraine units couldn't go into ANY transports...

The wording on the Raider transport section is very specific.

This model has a transport capacity of 11 Drukhari Infantry models. Each Grotesque model takes up the space of 3 models. This model cannot transport models that can Fly.

Yvraine and the Visarch are not Drukhari Infantry models, so they can't hitch a ride.

Would they not get those keywords when they join a unit? Putting a psyker in a unit makes them all pshykick for instance.

No. Putting a Psycher in a unit means the unit has the Psycher Keyword. It does not change the keywords the individual models have.

Rules Commentary wrote:

Some units can contain models that have different keywords. While this is the case, such a unit is considered to have all of the keywords of all of its models, and so is affected by any rule that applies to units with any of those keywords. Remember that attacks are made against units, not models.

Example: An Attached unit contains a Leader model with the Psyker keyword. While that Leader is part of that unit, the entire unit is considered to have the Psyker keyword. If that unit is attacked by a weapon with the [ANTI-PSYKER 4+] ability, any unmodified Wound roll of 4+ made against that unit scores a Critical Wound, even if the attack itself is not allocated to that Leader model

 alextroy wrote:
No. Putting a Psycher in a unit means the unit has the Psycher Keyword. It does not change the keywords the individual models have.

Rules Commentary wrote:

Some units can contain models that have different keywords. While this is the case, such a unit is considered to have all of the keywords of all of its models, and so is affected by any rule that applies to units with any of those keywords. Remember that attacks are made against units, not models.

Example: An Attached unit contains a Leader model with the Psyker keyword. While that Leader is part of that unit, the entire unit is considered to have the Psyker keyword. If that unit is attacked by a weapon with the [ANTI-PSYKER 4+] ability, any unmodified Wound roll of 4+ made against that unit scores a Critical Wound, even if the attack itself is not allocated to that Leader model

I am confused. The dark Eldar unit has drukhari keyword. Pop a character in there and mix the keywords together. That unit now have all the keywords of both units including drukhari keyword.

Put said unit in transport - check if said unit has the keywords for the transport. Get recognition.

'Drukhari' is a faction keyword, but 'Infantry' is a unit keyword. 'Psyker' seems to be an ability or state keyword.
I have not seen it defined like that, but some keywords do not appear to be transferrable.

Keywords transfer to the UNIT, but not to the models within the unit.

The unit as a whole is Drukhari.
But Yvraine still isn't.

 JNAProductions wrote:
Keywords transfer to the UNIT, but not to the models within the unit.

The unit as a whole is Drukhari.
But Yvraine still isn't.

If that is true does that mean inquisitors that join a squad of custodians can ride in a landraider without taking up a slot? It says inquisitors can ride in the same transports as the unit they join. The Custodies landraider has a max capasaty of 6 Custodies. If the inquisitor do not get the keyword he does not fill up the custody slot. Right?

 Niiai wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
Keywords transfer to the UNIT, but not to the models within the unit.

The unit as a whole is Drukhari.
But Yvraine still isn't.

If that is true does that mean inquisitors that join a squad of custodians can ride in a landraider without taking up a slot? It says inquisitors can ride in the same transports as the unit they join. The Custodies landraider has a max capasaty of 6 Custodies. If the inquisitor do not get the keyword he does not fill up the custody slot. Right?

No because Transport Capacity is on a per model basis, a unit of 6 Custodes counts as 12 models and with an Inquisitor that's 13. Just because it states an Inquisitor can ride in the same transports as the unit they join it doesn't override the maximum Transport Capacity of the transport.

Now if you had 3 Custodes and an Inquisitor then yes they could all ride in the Land Raider as that is only 7 models.

Foxfyre wrote:

 Niiai wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
Keywords transfer to the UNIT, but not to the models within the unit.

The unit as a whole is Drukhari.
But Yvraine still isn't.

If that is true does that mean inquisitors that join a squad of custodians can ride in a landraider without taking up a slot? It says inquisitors can ride in the same transports as the unit they join. The Custodies landraider has a max capasaty of 6 Custodies. If the inquisitor do not get the keyword he does not fill up the custody slot. Right?

No because Transport Capacity is on a per model basis, a unit of 6 Custodes counts as 12 models and with an Inquisitor that's 13. Just because it states an Inquisitor can ride in the same transports as the unit they join it doesn't override the maximum Transport Capacity of the transport.

Now if you had 3 Custodes and an Inquisitor then yes they could all ride in the Land Raider as that is only 7 models.

You are just making gak up, probably based on the previus edition. A Custodies Landraider has a transport capasaty of 6 custodian models.

So if the inquisitor does not get the custodies keyword he rides for free, no?

I personally do not think that is the case. In the 3rd paragraf of the rules commentery we see what happens when a unit has multiple models with different keywords. You just soup them all together. - If the lack of drukhari keyword is what leeps Ynnari from going in a raider as long as they cna join a dark eldar squad they should get the keywords and be able to ride in a transport. Just like an inquisitor would take up one slot in a landraider.

I apologise for the bad ruling; I had honestly, but wrongly, believed I had read capacity limits to be the same as in 9th. Mea Culpa.

The Inquisitor has the rule "Authority of the Inquisition" that gives explicit permission to board any transport that can legally carry his bodyguard and as such ignores the limit the Land Raider capacity places.

Yvraine has no such rule.

But Yvraine gets the dark Eldar keyword once they join the group. I do not see how that does not work.

 Niiai wrote:
But Yvraine gets the dark Eldar keyword once they join the group. I do not see how that does not work.

Because she doesn't gain the DRUKHARI keyword.

Consider FLY:

Ahriman on a Disc has the FLY keyword. He may join a unit of Rubric Marines, who themselves do not have the FLY keyword. Because Ahriman has FLY the unit has the FLY keyword, and so would be affected by weapons with the ANTI-FLY ability. However, flying movement is done on a per-model basis; since only Ahriman has the FLY keyword, he may fly when the unit moves but the Rubric Marines still have to move on foot.

The Raider's transport capacity is 11 DRUKHARI INFANTRY models, not 1 DRUKHARI INFANTRY unit. While the unit is considered to have all the keywords of all the models in the unit, the inverse is NOT true. Yvraine doesn't herself have the DRUKHARI keyword, so she can't climb on the Raider.

It's dumb, but that's how it is.

I believe the 3rd paragraf billig point under keywords negate this.

 Niiai wrote:
I believe the 3rd paragraf billig point under keywords negate this.

That says that a Unit has the keywords of all its models, but that does not mean every model has all the keywords. Subtle but important difference

Deathreaper is right. The unit has all the keywords of its models. The models do not have all the keywords of their unit. That is why many units have multiple keyword listings for different models in the unit.

Of obvious note is the Precision Keyword. It allows you to attack an Attached Unit and allocate attacks to a Character model in that unit. This doesn't make sense if having a Character model in the unit gave all the models in the unit the Character keyword.

Luckily, Drukhari models can all go in a Wave Serpent. Sure, you can't shoot out of it... But now there is room for the Visarch to join in the fun!