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I had to limit it to 40k, otherwise it'd be those unarmed civilians in Battlefleet Gothic that were too small for stands.

From an esthetic perspective alone the baby pram Dreadknights from the Grey Knights made me not build that army.

 Cap'n Facebeard wrote:
No one's mentioning the plastic Marine flyers, apart from the Corvus?

They look like bad toybashes and yet are actual models somehow.

My mum asked me when she saw the corvus blackstar, "is that supposed to be a sea turtle?"

Now I can't unsee it.

Anyone want to remember the green plastic rods of the Necrons?

I always thought that Mr. Murder Dreadnought should be painted brown an yellow or blue and yellow. It's essentially Wolverine in a 'mech suit.

I'm sure that someone had already brought up Spider-Man villain Stilt Man, the AdMeh Sniper.

But can someone explain the fluff or reasoning why.... just why.

I'm not going to post the photo of it, because I'm not that much of an but I got a nasty puncture wound on the bottom of my foot from chasing a dog and stepping on an old pewter dark Eldar, that was my roommates.

I don't think the hospital returned it.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Not a 40k unit but the Ground Eldar Sky Cutter deserves a mention.

A flying Ground Eldar Boat powered by Fairy Dust I can see. But somehow seeing it towed by eagles just ruins it. Came out around the same time as Santa Logan too.

I've removed the 40k tag... that beautiful model makes my brain hurt.

How exactly does it land?

 Dysartes wrote:
I'd also suggest a pass for the Land Speeder Storm, as it feels like a suitable sort of transport to get Scouts to a forward position quickly.

The Scouts get a pass as a whole, they are the only Space Marine Unit to survive the great redesign nightmare.

If I played Marines, I could remember the dumb in universe where you put a regular pilot into a dreadnought, and magically the dreadnought becomes quiet and stealthy.

Oh, and he gets a Heavy Bolter Pistol. Oh. The Horror, the Horror.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Since it's now all of Warhammer, I'm gonna toss in the stupid Cow-Hat High Elves from Age of Sigmar. There is no amount of elven grace that make those things work me. EVER.

Cow Hat? I'm not familiar with this... but I'm intrigued (and dumb) enough to open the Necronomicon, and ask "what do they look like?"

Gah, sorry about the delay in my post but the crab mallet weilding bull hatted Elves broke my brain, no wonder they were so back so far in the Necronomicon, under the chapter heading: things-that-you-should-not-see.

 Overread wrote:

 SirDonlad wrote:
Ogryn could be the dumbest unit

Spoiler:

Hey! They'll keep them robots safe for the Emperor better than any guardsmen!

I wonder who the robots were?

The Ogryn had the greatest rule name back in the days if yore, "It's dark in dere." Good luck putting them back in the Chimera.

Here's something I've always wondered, why does a tiny bolt pistol for a IG Sergeant have the same stats as a Bolt Pistol for a SM Sergeant?

The interwebs, the chosen voice of the wisdom of the Omnissiah has decreed that the Bolter shells are.75 cal while HB shells are 1.00 cal.

Did GW ever release a prop bolt shell? Or have those all been 3rd party?

I remember when the DA had the Master of the Ravenwing on a Jetbike.

We thought this is amazing and unique. Never will any Marines have anything close to this.

Yep... never.

 Insectum7 wrote:
DE can't assault out of their vehicles after they move anymore?

I mean . . . Land Raiders allow that. . .

Because they have a ramp. . .

See... you answered your own question. Xenos have never been able to understand superior human ramp technology.

What do you think of units that work against the common Lore of 40k?

My friends and I were discussing the Ole Tyranid planet eating bits and how all the tyranids end up being tasty slurry at the end of a conquest to be sucked through the magic straws into the gullets of mama Tyranids in space.

When it struck one us... how do tyranids have named special characters? If the tyranids win those special folks end up as chunky milk shakes like everyone else.

If they were so wonderful, Mama overmind would make entire groups of them.

Does this make sense to anyone else?

You're right about the GSC forces.




I guess they could be generic archetypes of what to expect, much like ::shudder:: space marine Primaris Lieutenants.

But I can't see named characters, unless they are tied to a specific place or time.

I guess, this is why I'm not a fan of special characters outside of scenarios to begin with...

It strains the credulity of games to know that I have personally run over Cmdr. Dante at least 20 times with an Inquisitorial Chimera.

I think GW games work better, where you are the general, leading Your forces across the galaxy.

I'm fine with the Emperor's Champion, not so much with Helbrects galore.

/rant

Wait, there are wraithlord characters?

Uhhh it seems that it would be odd for units not to have large hammers in a game called Warhammer.

 Haighus wrote:
I'd forgotten about the bunker. They could've just made a plastic Deathstorm drop pod...

Instead they made a bunker that looks.like its just been deployed like a drop pod... but you can't deep strike the sucker.

Nyxxi wrote:

Karol wrote:
Probably a tie between the Primaris Reavers and Primaris Bunker. Units that no one asked for, no one wants, that have no reason to be bought, used etc.

I have never seen anyone buy fortification in my life

There are a bunch of Knight players who own fortifications because they filled In points on their list....

...or so they tell me.

Whoever decided to give the Scots, Ork accents....

.... in all seriousness, Grot Tanks. They sound cool (if you're into foul xenos armor), but they are a little lackluster.

Not the worst. Not the best, just hovering in the middle... Kinda like Ork Armies altogether.

1. I was referring to the 80 pt. Sacristan Forgeshrine that existed up until the 10th index. Which knight players enjoyed an 80 point giant piece of terrain to hide behind. Because it was pretty useless... unless you brought your Tech priest from another army with you.


2. I now understand that "Mad Doc" auto wins the "True Scotsman" game.

I was taught by a fellow from Glasgow, the easiest way to figure our where you are in Europe:
Walk into any pub, and say, "I love your pretty French accents." If you're still alive, you're in France.

The issue that 40k will always have is the sci-fi esthetic.

In fantasy games, you can have zany, nutty things that don't make a lick of sense (homing pigeon bombs and giant hamster balls) but you can go with it....

On 40k, you have the sci-fi feel, where you can't help but wonder, is this a possible future, could we have this some day... which leads to...

Why, gods of woe, why, would they build something like this?

I think that's the real issue here.

I felt that 40k was the same tongue firmly in cheek future in the same mold as 2000ADs Judge Dredd, which was 1980s Americana told only as it could be from the wisened eyes of the Brits.

 Overread wrote:
Heck original Necrons had a LOT of Egyptian iconography going on for them. They were very literally TombKings in Space. Modern Necrons are, design wise, quite a good bit removed from that. It's still here and there in their designs, but its far less overt/bold than it was back with the original designs.

I still miss the giant scarab though...

The Battlefleet Gothic Necron Super Crescent Death Ship that liked to lightning my ships from the skies (whose name I can't remember) had a giant pyramid as its bridge.

I saw the most bizarre BFG game once, it was Tau v Tau. But one side had the all metal GW cigar Tau and the other side had beautiful FW Tau, which looked like how everyone imagined the Tau to look in space.

But because the universe is GrimDark, the ugly Tau won.

I still have nightmares from the "You can't shoot me," marker mandrakes.


Nothing like having a bunch of guardsmen and waiting for some Dark Eldar to appear and wade into them.

Not fun for anyone... except for the Dark Eldar player.

I have to add one thing that I want to fix on the Imperial Knights..
The chains word arm... does it look a tad short to anyone else?

I keep trying to figure out how IKs fight infantry... you know, without riverdancing on their heads.