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Does anyone know why Eidelon wasn’t included in the EC codex? Just because they don’t have a sculpt or becuase of something else

Sculpt is reason #1.
I don’t even think GW would consider him a prime candidat to turn into a 40K model what with their idiotic 30K/40K division nowadays. 40K rather likes to pull new chars out of nowhere (if at all, with the killing of failcast some armies currently might have the smallest roster of named chars ever).
If he appears in a background text in the new codex there are chances they could make a model for him someday.

I haven’t read the new codex yet but he is mentioned in all the recent EC stuff I’ve read from the black library and is talked about as the leader default leader even though the EC are broken up into hosts.

I suppose holding him back for the next update ensures they have something to try and get people excited about.

He feels like a great candidate to be released alongside a novel featuring him.

Where's the sonic dreadnought?
Where are the Red Butchers and Teeth of Khorne from the WE codex?
Why do WE have 2 mounted leaders and no mounted units to lead?

I bought in to the new EC and love the models they've released - but it feels annoyingly half-arsed. Codex is slim to the point of anorexic, especially if you don't want to include daemons, and lots of weird omissions.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Sculpt is reason #1.
I don’t even think GW would consider him a prime candidat to turn into a 40K model what with their idiotic 30K/40K division nowadays. 40K rather likes to pull new chars out of nowhere (if at all, with the killing of failcast some armies currently might have the smallest roster of named chars ever).
If he appears in a background text in the new codex there are chances they could make a model for him someday.

Pretty much this, and especially since there's a lot of stratification between the specialty games and the mainstream "core" games rules division. I'm not 100% sure on this, but things have shifted so that cross-game promotion in terms of sales has basically been all but dropped now since I think each division counts sales of the item only for their game division, so there's no incentive to have people use the same model for two systems, hence why even though plastic contemptors with actual modular options came out for HH 2.0, that there were no corresponding 40k rules like there was before when HH had come out with other units like the 30k armour variants for termies and marines. It's also part of the reason why Beastmen got axed entirely from AoS and got ported over to specialty games rather than keeping their models for both.

You'll notice DG and TS both came before World Eaters and Emperor's Children so they managed to get ahead of this trend so they've actually kept some of the OG HH units in their roster. Meanwhile, WE lose out on a lot of easy WE units that could be corrupted/ported over in some way like Red Butchers and EC also don't have things like Phoenix Guard. So with Eidolon being a primarily FW sculpt and character, (even though he is present and active in the 40K era) they would be much more likely to make a new character like Sgt Cortez than to add in an existing one.

Yeah I was hoping.

Still, the original notion for Eidolon - this wasn't written down, so take it as you will - is that after ten thousand years slumming it amid the Eye of Terror's screwy grasp of reality, what's left of him is the idea of Eidolon, not the man; he probably died (for real) millennia ago, but so long as folks think he's possibly out there somewhere, he is, in whatever form and role he's imagined to be in. So literally any datacard in the codex could be Eidolon, from daemon prince to spawn, if that's what you think he is.

 Daia T'Nara wrote:
Yeah I was hoping.

Still, the original notion for Eidolon - this wasn't written down, so take it as you will - is that after ten thousand years slumming it amid the Eye of Terror's screwy grasp of reality, what's left of him is the idea of Eidolon, not the man; he probably died (for real) millennia ago, but so long as folks think he's possibly out there somewhere, he is, in whatever form and role he's imagined to be in. So literally any datacard in the codex could be Eidolon, from daemon prince to spawn, if that's what you think he is.

If it wasn't written down, what's your source for this? Or is this just your own idea?

ccs wrote:
If it wasn't written down, what's your source for this? Or is this just your own idea?

Yeah, but I made him up to begin with. But leaving it out of canon means nobody in the 40k setting will ever 'discover' Eidolon's an idea who's only real because he's believed to be real, which means Eidolon is an idea who's only real because he's believed to be real. (The first chaos book I read was The Lost and the Damned and I kind of glommed onto Tzeentch, I feel like that still shows sometimes.)

Which also means the Inquisition are partially responsible for keeping him 'alive' by worrying he might be, while GW's actually posed a much greater threat to him by just making the 30k and 40k teams stop sharing their homework.

Eidelon is discussed by Bile in clonelord as a character in the setting but he doesn’t actually appear. I thought he was always thought of as alive

According to Lexicanum, he's mostly chilling in the Eye of Terror, but conducts raids from time to time.

Well he did receive a novel recently, so it's certain he's still in GW's mind. But that was set early Heresy if I recall correctly as they traveled to Terra for the siege and got bored along the way. The Lucius novel which is set in 40k timezone does mention him a few times so again, we know he's alive and well.... kinda?

Thing is, I think he's more fun as a supporting character (Even if his ego couldn't handle that) someone to bounce off of, not be the point of view. We don't really need to know what he's thinking constantly, just having him trying to hog the spotlight as a slightly rotten peacock is a perfect use for the character.

He'd certainly work as an antagonist, with perfect plans, traps and mocking speaches aimed at the hero/POV character though. So that's certainly a use for him narrativly.