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well... thats what knifes and saws have been invented for

aye, but still- more hassle


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spent the past three hours deleting crap photos, rearranging them, renaming them, editing them, rearranging them again, then writing about them, for a LotR battle report:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/LotR_Battle_Report_#Army_Lists

i just had a rather quick leaf through to your battlereport... you did an outstanding job getting all these pictures edited and adding all these arrows for movements... the lil skulls for killed in action are a nice addition... also from what i´ve read a nice dramtic tale!

the table was rather good looking... you definatly took a lot out of these pieces and made an awseome scenario...even tho the final outcome might not be considered good... but i think it was a fun time all around...

Definitely fun, though yes, outcome not so good
I spent too many points on the rangers, which ultimately didn't anywhere near make up for their points- I'd have been much better off with some more dwarves

well... more minis would have probably made more hit rols... better chances then i think...

It was just I took 10 rangers, who killed a total of two men and did nothing else besides.

ouch... that is an investment that definatly didn´t pay off...

Yeah- mathhammering it, I should've killed at least a dozen in the four turns it took to reach the gate, but I was just really unlucky in my rolls :(

were you free to position your minis before starting? or was the position of the minis due to the scenario? i think a quicker rush out to get them while still charging would have been maybe a good idea too...

I had more elite troops, so bottlenecking the gateway was my best bet- it was mostly just the slow grinding down of my men because I was outnumbered nearly two to one by the time they hit the gates, simply because their archers were far more lucky than mine, and killed eight rangers in those four turns :(

oh yeah, that seems like an all around gakky something... tho... you have to take into account that you made it to a tie... no telliung what would have happened if luck or numbers would have been on your side...

yeah, though I still think my main problems were before the game had started, making an army list.

I'm having a game tomorrow with a similar list, though this time I'm ditching five rangers and adding a ballista (siege weapon), which is tougher and will probably kill a similar number of troops, but is very effective against trolls...

and what will you be up against? similar troops or something else...?

dunno if this might be the right decision... but be sure... i cross my fingers for you

I think half easterlings, half uruks, which are heavy infantry guys, as well as a fair amount of ranged weapons, a couple of annoying heroes and a troll, which, until friday, I have never succeeded in bringing down.

hmm... then getting rid of the troll would count as a psychological warfare triumph...

The troll is incredibly troublesome physically too- half my men are too scared to take it on, and even then it wins the combat most of the time and squishes them one by one unless I throw loads of men at it and hope some attacks get through

well... in this the game is true to the books and the movies...
only aragorn, sam, gandalf and merry and pippin tackle the troll in moria in CC...iirc...

Legolas finished it, and gimli basically threw an axe at it and then fought goblins too, though yes, it definitely didn't go down without a fight.
though later, gandalf the white kills a troll, and aragorn tackles (nearly dies, but still doesn't do terribly) the mordor troll chieftan...

well...i didn´t include legolas as she cheated with her bow ()

hahahah ^^

so, back to gaming, today I played three games- drew one, lost one and won one.

first game, I had 200pts of dwarves, penned in between two 250pt armies of easterlings.
Needless to say, I got smashed and only survived when the two armies sent half thier men each to fight over the objective (a hill in the middle), meaning one player won, and me and the other drew equal.

second game, I was insanely unlucky- I failed every single roll I took, and got wiped out completely

last game, I was playing the winner of the previous two games, and basically tied up his two characters and most of his men with my dwarves and rangers while elladan and elrohir killed a couple of guys a turn until his army broke and ran away

lol... well it seems luck is seldom on your side... except in the last game... is it because of dwarves? or just sod´s law?....

well, first and second I was just unlucky, last game was more to do with the fact that I chose less light infantry and more armoured shield-carrying dwarves.

I'm... not sure what this thread is about!

It's pretty nonsensical to everyone but me and vik really

started out as half fluff, half raven guard blog, but turned into just a blog and the fluff got moved here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/The_sons_of_Corax

then the raven guard blog kinda got added to with orks, guard and grey knights, so it became just generally my 40k blog, which, now I've gotten back into LotR, has become my LotR and 40k blog

LotR-talk (stuff that's relevant to what I'm doing now) starts about 26 pages in, if you want to know

yes... what the thread starter said

Well, for my 7000th post, I figured I'd better post an update, day or (in this case) night!

Well, I've been busy (by my standards, anyway), and since last time I've painted a grand total of eleven more models! *confetti*

so, here they are:



on saturday I'm hoping to pick up the new hobbit box set, and build and paint that over the coming month or so until I hit christmas money, where I'll buy some more rangers.

hmmm....



good looking works on these minis...

what i like is the consitency of the painted models... you planned them well and you stayed true to the scheme you had planned... mind you... that´s not happening often to my own painting attempts

the banners look rather stunning, crisp contrast. and i like them for the scheme even more.

and the converted champion looks cool too... how could he not, double wileding axes... how badass can one small lawnornamental warrior get, heh?

heh, thanks. Don't quite have the money for the hobbit, so I'm getting that for christmas and rangers before then (should pick them up saturday).

and they're not just normal rangers...


they're not even just rangers of the north...


they're RANGERS OF THE NORTH CAVALRY! (No actual models for them, but I'm getting rohan riders:


and mixing them with rangers of the north (mostly heads and arms) to make them. Not because they're any good (too lightly armoured to survive in prolonged close quarter fights, and focus on archery instead, which is kinda wasted when on a horse), but because I like the idea, it'd be kinda unique, and they're the only possible form of cavalry I'm going to get in this army

that idea somehow reminds me of native americans like the sioux... archery on horseback^^

are the LotR models that easy to convert by the way?

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
that idea somehow reminds me of native americans like the sioux... archery on horseback^^

are the LotR models that easy to convert by the way?

Not nearly as easy as 40k is- 90% of lord of the rings models are one or sometimes two parts, while 40k stuff like marines tend to be upwards of 10.
normally it's difficult (especially without GS), and with cloaks like my army it's near suicidal, but rohan guys are relatively light armour, and if I stick to just head and weapon swaps, it shouldn't be too bad.
The main problem is, as always, money. 6 ranger cavalry as I was planning, led by Halbarad, Elladan and Elrohir (all, or at least two of which, also being mounted), would cost me £16 for the rangers and £18 for the horsemen to be converted, another £16 for the footslogging rangers (in case the horses get shot, I have to have models to represent fallen riders), £16 for two Halbarads (again, one foot and one mounted), £8 for a model I'm looking at using for Elrohir on a horse, as well as whatever I find to be Elladan on a horse, and I have to somehow get one extra horse to convert Halbarad to be riding.
so for those 6 rangers and 3 heroes, it'll cost me upwards of £74.
Luckily, that's the majority of my army complete after that, but still...

I *could* trim it down by maybe £10, but if I'm still going to be spending £64 on 9 models, I may as well spend an extra tenner to make it a little better.