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For the price they are charging they need to sweeten the deal considerably by giving almost exclusively new kits and not warehouse leftovers like Vypers and Falcons.

I mean, maybe they are changing the rules for Vypers, Falcons, and Hellions in the next campaign book so they are a must-have, but I doubt it.

 Argive wrote:
I think anyone that doesnt factor in discount from 3rd party retailers and the second hand market is not realy honestly representing the value of the box.

Not at all. Value can be compared to other examples quite easily independently of MSRP/3rd party. The Shadowspear comparison is really valid - a box of entirely new models from more popular armies at basically 50% off retail, and none of the units are bottom tier.

 John Prins wrote:

 Argive wrote:
I think anyone that doesnt factor in discount from 3rd party retailers and the second hand market is not realy honestly representing the value of the box.

Not at all. Value can be compared to other examples quite easily independently of MSRP/3rd party. The Shadowspear comparison is really valid - a box of entirely new models from more popular armies at basically 50% off retail, and none of the units are bottom tier.

Being ETB kits makes them a bit cheaper. There was also no codex. Given these are on a proper sprue we can expect real boxes a lot sooner than normal. The codex might make this box limited appeal, but then people will be able to tag rules on eBay for bottom dollar.

 Eldarsif wrote:
For the price they are charging they need to sweeten the deal considerably by giving almost exclusively new kits and not warehouse leftovers like Vypers and Falcons.

I mean, maybe they are changing the rules for Vypers, Falcons, and Hellions in the next campaign book so they are a must-have, but I doubt it.

I think if they threw in the phoenix rising book it would be worth it just about. Im still splitting a box or two with a friend at 20-25% off. Will resell one of jain zars and maskless heads at a premium plus one of the fqlcons but still feels like getting taken to the cleaners..

 Argive wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:
For the price they are charging they need to sweeten the deal considerably by giving almost exclusively new kits and not warehouse leftovers like Vypers and Falcons.

I mean, maybe they are changing the rules for Vypers, Falcons, and Hellions in the next campaign book so they are a must-have, but I doubt it.

I think if they threw in the phoenix rising book it would be worth it just about. Im still splitting a box or two with a friend at 20-25% off. Will resell one of jain zars and maskless heads at a premium plus one of the fqlcons but still feels like getting taken to the cleaners..

As long as people keep buying, GW will keep doing it.