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Elite Tyranid Warrior



Montreal

OK........
   
Made in ca
Elite Tyranid Warrior



Montreal

OK........

This game makes me feel really stupid sometimes.
   
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Sinewy Scourge







You'll get used to it

   
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok






I like your thoughts Ther, quite a lot.

I think we should be on the look out for any of the nontalkers who survives much longer. if it boils down to a couple of the talkers and say, scarper, that could very well be a sign that he would be the last one of the cultists. I am saying this because I think the cultists are probably going to pick of targets that you can't trace to anyone else, thus keeping us in the dark. Alternatively, if the cultists are among the talkers, they could kill of one of us, and put themselves in majority among the ones present, and win prematurely.

I am considering withdrawing my vote, for now. This is obviously not a time when we want to fail due to rashness.


 
   
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Cool beans.

Voting is difficult now, because not voting feels like a waste of a dayphase, and then the cultists can act during the night, but we also can't take the risk of killing off an ally now. I think you're right, and we can't be rash, but we cannot be inactive either.
   
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Paul Atreides wrote:I like your thoughts Ther, quite a lot.


Well, this post to me, means nothing, since, if it makes you innocent, then of course you're going to be behind it. Once again, just me. (Here comes halonachos!!!)

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The fact that you guys are "existing" with my theories (conspirators in said theory) is a little bad to me... I would outright deny it, like halonachos did, though I would try to do it a bit more skillfully.

Also, halonachos, please don't take things out of context like that, it will just make me have to go back and look for it.

Alright, and who believes that halonachos can even possibly be an inquisitor?

He would have hounded a suspect unrelentlessly after day one. He would have shielded BishopGore... er should have.

I really don't think this latest bluff is going to work.

So, that (to me) is more evidence on the pile, since he is bluffing about his role.
   
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I'm sorry to say it, but with the screaming you and halo are doing, I'd rather just not get into your argument. I think he's done enough arguing for the 3 of us. If we really were that threatened, we'd probably just try and get all of our votes together, and with only 5 people still here (until Scott gets back), we could probably get you lynched, or at least get a 50/50.

Meanwhile, Halonachos seems to be going down the same path as IGLannister with more and more suspicious activity, although I do think that it would have been a stretch to shield BishopGore. Halo has always been kind of an instigator it seems, and BishopGore seemed to be killed out of the blue.
   
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I'm sad to hear that fifty. We need you to provide a more unbiased view on this whole mess. And besides, if you are loyal and quit, we have automatically lost(if there really are 3 cultists and 1 rogue psyker)!

Syphonius, I will enjoy taunting your overconfidence in your deductive abilities in my deathpost.

There is always the slim chance Halo COULD be the inquisitor. But so could you, so could Drk_O, so could I. Did Lord-loss unrelentlessly chase his suspect? Did he have one? There is no such thing as 100% certainty in this game after all.

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Oh yes there is 100% certainty. *snickers*

Lord-Loss only could have investigated to find demons.

He may not have found who he was looking for.

And simply been useless...

Much easier to find cultists though.
   
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok






Fair point about lord-loss, but I still don't agree there is such a thing as certainty here. Take for instance your theories. Are you a hundred percent sure of my guilt? Of TherVadam's? Of Halo's? You can't be. You just slapped together a suspect list of the most comfortable targets, and you haven't changed it since. I said it before and I'll say it again, only cultists get the player roles. There is no way you can ever be 'sure', if you are on the good side, that is.


 
   
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How about inquisitor or psyker? There are good side roles too y'know...

There is one inquisitor left...
   
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok






That is just a point more to my argument. Noone in any of these games, by their very nature, will ever be fully sure of what exactly is going on (perhaps the only people who do are lategame inquisitors). You can have whatever mind-spankingly brilliant plan you want, but there is always a chance you are dead wrong.


 
   
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About some of it? Sure.

Though you, IGLannister, and halonachos are cultists.

Trust me, im a cop.
   
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I persume you are some sort of super inquisitor then, capable of investigating four people every nightphase?

Well it's good you at least have confidence in yourself I guess, no matter how malplaced.



 
   
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Not what happened though look at it this way.

Say I am the inquisitor.

I investigate you.

Then, I investigate Ther.

Then IGLannister dies, and we find out he is a cultist.

Halonachos declares himself he is an inquisitor, so I know he is lying, and a cultist.
   
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In your base, ignoring your logic.

I declare myself an inquisitor and am therefor a cultist huh?

Here's the thing, the game is down to this point that any side has an equal chance of winning. If a cultist is taken out then one of the few remaining townies will be night killed, as it is now day 3 they may be more prone to take risks with their night kills seeing as though both of them have been safe.

Everyone who died via nightkill were very safe targets, stynier was one and bishop was another( although Drk thinks differently for some reason). You see, I think bishop was taken out because if they attempted to night kill me, it would've failed and looked bad on their parts. If vadem was night killed, it would make inquisitor look guilty and if inquisitor or Drk were night killed it would make me look guilty. However, this could also be a bluff or a double bluff or a triple bluff, or even a quadruple stuffed oreo, it doesn't help at all.

Drk, I did tell you who I investigated earlier, but I didn't say when.

Bishop Day one: Proved to be on my side yay!
Inquisitor Day two: Proved to be cultist boo!

I didn't have too much suspicion of Inquisitor until day two when he tried to declare me as a cultist immediately after the night phase. I had too look at his role and found my answer, he was quite the smart little cultist me thinks.

Also, inquisitor you did say that I was saying that LL and I were on the same page. If you want me to quote you I can and will, I guess its easy to forget when you're too busy lying.
   
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halonachos wrote:I declare myself an inquisitor and am therefor a cultist huh?

Here's the thing, the game is down to this point that any side has an equal chance of winning. If a cultist is taken out then one of the few remaining townies will be night killed, as it is now day 3 they may be more prone to take risks with their night kills seeing as though both of them have been safe.

Everyone who died via nightkill were very safe targets, stynier was one and bishop was another( although Drk thinks differently for some reason). You see, I think bishop was taken out because if they attempted to night kill me, it would've failed and looked bad on their parts. If vadem was night killed, it would make inquisitor look guilty and if inquisitor or Drk were night killed it would make me look guilty. However, this could also be a bluff or a double bluff or a triple bluff, or even a quadruple stuffed oreo, it doesn't help at all.

Drk, I did tell you who I investigated earlier, but I didn't say when.

Bishop Day one: Proved to be on my side yay!
Inquisitor Day two: Proved to be cultist boo!

I didn't have too much suspicion of Inquisitor until day two when he tried to declare me as a cultist immediately after the night phase. I had too look at his role and found my answer, he was quite the smart little cultist me thinks.

Also, inquisitor you did say that I was saying that LL and I were on the same page. If you want me to quote you I can and will, I guess its easy to forget when you're too busy lying.


Dear halonachos, first line of your quote~

Read carefully.

Look, now let me say that I am the inquisitor, and throw it to go my way:

Day one: Laid low, and used investigate on you.

That's why I made that sudden turn, covering it up as despising the RVS...

Day two: Investigate on BishopGore to see if he really was the psyker, I saw that he was really a psyker, though he seemed to not really be enjoying the game, and that I thought it would be suicide to night kill him.

Look! I can bluff too. The fact is, that, anyone can say that they're the inquisitor. You're story is thinner than flak armor.

Stynier wasn't really safe... as much as demon. Don't know why he was safe...

Can I see said quote?
   
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Ohh, ok. I'm fine with my current position in the game.

   
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Oh lord it is killing me, I put "you're story is thinner than flak armor"...

I really do think it is me that is making this game unfun for more than one person, I would really like to believe otherwise... but I don't know.

I'll probably be quiet unitl halo gets lynched, then just silently cast my vote and what not.
   
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In your base, ignoring your logic.

Why would it be suicide to night kill bishop though? A cultist wouldn't know, a rogue psyker may be able to learn that it was his role as well.

Stynier was a safe night kill because it truly didn't implicate anyone. So many people were around that double/triple/quadruple bluffs could've been abound. Same with bishop, although Paul/vadem/viking/scott/you would've been equally safe. Like I said, too many bluffs possible. Unfortunately the way I see it is that you inquisitor are the cultist, my investigation proved it to be so, and the save attempt by The Ferrett proves it.

After the night kill of stynier, it would've been wise for the Ferrett to ally himself with the cultists to avoid the chance of being night killed so he buddied up with you and your feeble attempt to impersonate the inquisitor by announcing that the most suspicious player in the game was a cultist. For me that was too safe so I began to suspect you and then investigated you after that.

Bishop talked way too much so I looked into him and saw his psykerness so I avoided any confrontation with him during the second day phase.

The quote:
IS wrote:That last line, names, want, now. And evidence. You and LL were on the same page now? last post you said you were acting at ends... stop associating with people after their death and only then, it is not beneficial...
   
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halonachos wrote:Why would it be suicide to night kill bishop though? A cultist wouldn't know, a rogue psyker may be able to learn that it was his role as well.


He announced it though.

Stynier was a safe night kill because it truly didn't implicate anyone. So many people were around that double/triple/quadruple bluffs could've been abound. Same with bishop, although Paul/vadem/viking/scott/you would've been equally safe. Like I said, too many bluffs possible. Unfortunately the way I see it is that you inquisitor are the cultist, my investigation proved it to be so, and the save attempt by The Ferrett proves it.


Though looking back, it was obvious that IGLannister was the only one with a reason to nightkill brother stynier.

That last line is silly, since I am the inquisitor and I investigated you, now your argument is invalid? (Yes, I intend to do this everytime you presume me dumb enough to believe you an inquisitor )

After the night kill of stynier, it would've been wise for the Ferrett to ally himself with the cultists to avoid the chance of being night killed so he buddied up with you and your feeble attempt to impersonate the inquisitor by announcing that the most suspicious player in the game was a cultist. For me that was too safe so I began to suspect you and then investigated you after that.


Hmm. I see where you're coming from. First line of this quote... what? I made a(n) (feeble) attempt to impersonate the inquisitor? You were the most suspicious player, he was going along because he didn't want to get lynched, or be on anyone's suspect list. He knew that he wasn't on the list for night kill, since he was backing me up, thinking I would be night killed.

Bishop talked way too much so I looked into him and saw his psykerness so I avoided any confrontation with him during the second day phase.


What?

The quote:
IS wrote:That last line, names, want, now. And evidence. You and LL were on the same page now? last post you said you were acting at ends... stop associating with people after their death and only then, it is not beneficial...


Errm... see that question mark...?
   
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In your base, ignoring your logic.

Yes I see the question mark, but you still made the assumption that I was intending to say that LL and I knew what was going on the entire time.

And yes, bishop talked a lot when he could, grilling everyone which either meant he was loyal or covering something up. I looked into it, saw that he was a psyker and didn't talk to him directly besides trying to get him to talk more. Unfortunately he "blew" his cover by announcing his psykerness to the group.

His death didn't really prove anything.

Bishop died so now the entire group listed by syphonius is correct? I really want to see that logic, and I really want to see Drk's logic and I really, really want to see Paul explain Drk's logic behind that.

Also, why would Ferrett think you would be night killed, he knew the cultists after all?
   
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halonachos wrote:Yes I see the question mark, but you still made the assumption that I was intending to say that LL and I knew what was going on the entire time.

And yes, bishop talked a lot when he could, grilling everyone which either meant he was loyal or covering something up. I looked into it, saw that he was a psyker and didn't talk to him directly besides trying to get him to talk more. Unfortunately he "blew" his cover by announcing his psykerness to the group.

His death didn't really prove anything.

Bishop died so now the entire group listed by syphonius is correct? I really want to see that logic, and I really want to see Drk's logic and I really, really want to see Paul explain Drk's logic behind that.

Also, why would Ferrett think you would be night killed, he knew the cultists after all?


Demons know cultists, not vice versa. You should know this.

He may have not thought that I was going to be night killed, though he wasn't in any threat from being night killed.
   
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In your base, ignoring your logic.

I did know that, ferrett was a demon so he knew you were a cultist.

He knew you wouldn't be night killed and didn't want to be night killed himself. In fact, if he was night killed and popped demon as he would have, you wouldn't be able to say that I was a cultist who night killed ferrett, so he made himself a less attractive target for you by becoming your friend. Even cultists need friends you know.
   
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halonachos wrote:1. I did know that, ferrett was a demon so he knew you were a cultist.

2. He knew you wouldn't be night killed and didn't want to be night killed himself. 3. In fact, if he was night killed and popped demon as he would have, you wouldn't be able to say that I was a cultist who night killed ferrett, so he made himself a less attractive target for you by becoming your friend. 4. Even cultists need friends you know.


1. Why do you mention this exactly? What makes you think this?

2. Then... he wanted to blend in... be neutral to everyone. Faceless nobody.

3. Umm... or he didn't want to become to close to you, since he knew I was on to you, and he wanted to look as pro-town as possible.

4. You would know.

@IGLannister

*Spits*
   
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Dude, I'm in the WARP. You're gonna have to try harder than that.

And GL everyone. Have a good game.

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Just got back today.

read througth all new messages but haven't really absorbed it.

Paul looks suspicious to me but not enough for a vote.

And another hole in the Halo is an Inquisitor is that he claims to be shielding himself thats why he is alive (there is a qoute but come on, 8 days traveling! Give me a break!), If you successfully shielded yourself then o-one would have been night-killed. Every night phase people have been killed.

Not going to vote yet.

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Yay Scott's back!
   
 
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