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In response to the original topic I own several guns, rifles & pistols, as for what I consider too much is kind of hard to explain; A long time friend of mine makes a living with automatic weapons. He is a re-enactor and consultant to many movies & documentaries. He has been in Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, Enemy at the Gates, & many History Channel documentaries. He has a federal firearms license that allows him to own & use automatic weapons. It's not easy to get, as a side note since the implementation of the federal firearms license no legal owner of an automatic weapon has committed a crime where a firearm was involved. (that is not say that someone like that hasn't had say a traffic ticket)That information is a matter of public record. The license also superceeds some state & local firearms laws because it is a Federal license.

Are the requirements for that licence fairly stringent then?

Orkeoaurus, Yes from what he told me the back ground check took a few years & he had a good security clearance when he was in the Navy. I also have left his name out on purpose for many reasons even though I know he doesn't post here. He also allows a few days extra for travel when ever he works on projects of that nature even though he has to contact any local law enforcement agencies when he tranports such weapons, due to being detained especialy with the airlines & California in gereral.

Excuse me Fateweaver in regards to your comment about the VT shootings do you have any idea what we went through during that. Have you ever been in a situation like that. I'm sorry that we were to busy trying to get out of there, not fully understanding what was going on. It's people like you that make me sick of the world and people who say that they would act differently in situations that they were never present at.

On topic I am a gunowner myself. I use them mainly for hunting purposes but also own guns just for the firing range. And as well I am currently working on getting a conceal and carry license.

@Ghost: While I can understand why you would be frustrated, for your own sake, and out of respect to others, don't make such personal attacks on someone. If you have an issue take up over PM or with a MOD. Not trying to be offensive or insensitive, I just don't want the Modquisition to come down on you...like a hammer....

I agree, no matter what you think you may do in a situation--you don't really know unless you do it. It's easy to be a Monday Morning QB, but it's different being in the middle of a crapstorm.

I also think it's common sense that gun free zones are nothing more than target-rich environments. People that plan on killing other people don't lose sleep over bringing a weapon in a gun-free zone.

Of course, Dorns Fist. But I wonder if anyone ever thought; "They'll never break THIS law!" with any sincerity.

My line is when a weapon starts to fire exploding or incendiary shells. Though I have no real problem with someone owning an antique cannon.

I just fail to see the point of all the bans and restrictions. 70+ years of gun control have failed to eliminate gun crime and only really succeeded in making it a pain in the ass for a law abiding person to own a firearm. On top of that most gun control laws focus their attentions on banning, or attempting to ban by ridiculous means, weapons that are used in only a tiny portion of gun related crime. Gun control laws represent an incredible waste of time and money spent trying to solve, and failing, the wrong problem.

Tyyr wrote:My line is when a weapon starts to fire exploding or incendiary shells. Though I have no real problem with someone owning an antique cannon.

I just fail to see the point of all the bans and restrictions. 70+ years of gun control have failed to eliminate gun crime and only really succeeded in making it a pain in the ass for a law abiding person to own a firearm. On top of that most gun control laws focus their attentions on banning, or attempting to ban by ridiculous means, weapons that are used in only a tiny portion of gun related crime. Gun control laws represent an incredible waste of time and money spent trying to solve, and failing, the wrong problem.

Control is not about solving a problem. Its about control.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Was told that the hold 'gangsta' angle was a crap idea, due to the spent casings not always ejecting fully, leading to 'banghand'?

Nonsense... they even make sights for them held that way: