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ShumaGorath wrote:Approval rating isn't a statistic that reflects a like or dislike of a presidency. It's a statistic that reflects happiness with a countries current direction, something often times outside of the direct control of influence of a sitting president. It's notoriously inaccurate in representing what it's actually meant to represent. The majority of americans polled simply don't understand the majority of issues for which they are judging a president on (as most Americans do not). It's also not an accurate way to predict votes historically.

Indeed. As ever people tend to become butt-hurt when they're brand affiliations are no longer the best solution to the problems at hand.

A famous man once said: "If you feel like you're right, you're probably wrong."

I kindly point out the article to you that was posted just before Shuma's insulting reply.

Great that you keep repeating Glen Beck when I don't even listen to that man, nor do I listen to Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage.

Thanks though for cementing my opinion of you.

What are we apologizing for? We are not the cause of other nations problems (well the UC Berkely and UC Davis students believe we are but they are brainwashed gakheads).

I was supported 3 posts ago Shuma and Dogma. Logic is in front of you, proof is in front of you. Of course you will assume it's fallacy because it isn't Jon Stewart or Nancy Pelosi who wrote that article but you know what they say about assuming things. It makes an ass out of you and me and guess who is looking like the ass?

Give you a hint. Go look in the mirror.

I end this thread though. Dogma doesn't purposely try to troll me or flame me (though he comes close). Gwar gets a bad rep for being a troll. I think Gwar gets his training from Shuma.

Good day gentleman (and Shuma). You now have evidence in front of you. Google search it if you want to know the real facts on your own. I know it won't change your mind (especially Shuma as everything his poli-sci professors and history professors at Brainwash Univeristy are telling him must be true, because you know they have PhD's and BS degrees). It would not shock me to learn Shuma is a UC Berkely or UC Davis student in the least.

Please, keep thinking the US is the blame for everything and that Obama will make it better. The rest of the world loves to blame us for everything, our President might as well too.

Fateweaver wrote:I kindly point out the article to you that was posted just before Shuma's insulting reply.

That's nice. You'll note that I haven't made any claim about the nature of Mexican gun crime.

Fateweaver wrote:
What are we apologizing for? We are not the cause of other nations problems (well the UC Berkely and UC Davis students believe we are but they are brainwashed gakheads).

Anything and everything. Relationships are often based on appearances, and establishing a submissive one can be quite beneficial in the international arena. Note Chinese foreign policy.

Fateweaver wrote:
I was supported 3 posts ago Shuma and Dogma. Logic is in front of you, proof is in front of you.

Proof has been offered. Proof is not logic. You have not offered any form of logic.

Fateweaver wrote:
Of course you will assume it's fallacy because it isn't Jon Stewart or Nancy Pelosi who wrote that article but you know what they say about assuming things. It makes an ass out of you and me and guess who is looking like the ass?

You're assuming that I'm a liberal, and that I'm arguing against you. Both of these assumptions are baseless.

Fateweaver wrote:
It would not shock me to learn Shuma is a UC Berkely or UC Davis student in the least.

I believer he goes to school in Maine. I assure you that the school I went to was far more liberal than either Berkley, or Davis.

Fateweaver wrote:
...Dodge Viper (fastest production car in the world)...

I didn't read the rest of the thread to see if anyone else caught this, but I'm catching it now. This is FALSE. The following link lists the fastest production cars in the world, and the Viper isn't anywhere to be found. (Don't get me wrong, I love the clown shoe just as much as the next guy, but lets keep it in perspective.)

http://www.allfastcars.com/fastestcars.shtml

First person to buy me this gets a free internet signed by Al Gore.

I'd like to buy you one, but first I'll need your credit card information and social security number.

Honestly, I'd rather have this:



1000HP Twin Turbo Ford GT by Heffner Performance. I don't care if it's the fastest or not, the Ford GT is sexy, and this is the fastest one you can get.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/08q1/zero_to_200_and_back-feature/2006_heffner_ford_gt1000tt_page_6

Orkeosaurus wrote:I'd like to buy you one, but first I'll need your credit card information and social security number.

Who wouldn't trust a dinosaur with and iron gob?

In other news, I hate Ford.

dogma wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:I'd like to buy you one, but first I'll need your credit card information and social security number.

Who wouldn't trust a dinosaur with and iron gob?

I'm also a Gorkamorkian prince.

dogma wrote:
In other news, I hate Ford.

While we all have our car likes and dislikes, when you break into the supercar level, the petty manufacturer squabbles just sort of fade away, and the cars must be measured individually against their own strengths and weaknesses.

Are you a lawyer, or should I secure the services of one?


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whitedragon wrote:While we all have our car likes and dislikes, when you break into the supercar level, the petty manufacturer squabbles just sort of fade away, and the cars must be measured individually against their own strengths and weaknesses.

Not for me, I have a bit of brand loyalty due to the role GM's worker benefits plan has played in my life.

dogma wrote:

whitedragon wrote:While we all have our car likes and dislikes, when you break into the supercar level, the petty manufacturer squabbles just sort of fade away, and the cars must be measured individually against their own strengths and weaknesses.

Not for me, I have a bit of brand loyalty due to the role GM's worker benefits plan has played in my life.

Eh, the super cars don't necessarily equal all that much of a slice of the pie in that equation.

Well obviously. Its just an aesthetic thing.

I love me my Z06's.

dogma wrote:Well obviously. Its just an aesthetic thing.

I love me my Z06's.

I can appreciate that.

Good day gentleman (and Shuma). You now have evidence in front of you. Google search it if you want to know the real facts on your own. I know it won't change your mind (especially Shuma as everything his poli-sci professors and history professors at Brainwash Univeristy are telling him must be true, because you know they have PhD's and BS degrees). It would not shock me to learn Shuma is a UC Berkely or UC Davis student in the least.

I commute a few hundred miles to Berkeley every day and I'm majoring in botany and art.

You'll note that I never defended the statistics themselves. I told you that you were being trollish, illogical, and could not support yourself. Indeed you never did support yourself, you were being quite trollish, and you until the very end refused to construct opinions based in logic. You shouted, and shouted, and shouted until someone else finally posted a pertinent article which I guess meant that you somehow "won" a debate that you both started and that was never reciprocated by anyone else.

I end this thread though. Dogma doesn't purposely try to troll me or flame me (though he comes close). Gwar gets a bad rep for being a troll. I think Gwar gets his training from Shuma.

Dogmas the soft touch, and while Gwar has a lot to learn, he doesn't need any troll training from the likes of me. He's already a master in that field.

Please, keep thinking the US is the blame for everything and that Obama will make it better. The rest of the world loves to blame us for everything, our President might as well too.

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2 edits Shuma. Had to delete something you wanted to say but were afraid of a ban?

I hold no such fear and as you can tell I don't edit my posts for anyone.

Not sure you keep chanting Glenn Beck? Is he your father? Did he force you into having butt sects with him?

I can chant too Shuma.

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Now if you'll excuse me I have an SKS to clean while I listen to Rush Limbaugh, finish off my case of Bud Light and then put on some Hank Williams Jr and listen to songs about getting drunk and getting into fights.

In my mind you edited that for more "Glen Beck"'s.


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Fateweaver wrote:
Now if you'll excuse me I have an SKS to clean while I listen to Rush Limbaugh, finish off my case of Bud Light and then put on some Hank Williams Jr and listen to songs about getting drunk and getting into fights.

Liberals also do this.

2 edits Shuma. Had to delete something you wanted to say but were afraid of a ban?

I thought you had said good day to this thread? My post styling is a bit odd. I copy paste a sentiment I want to respond too, respond to it, then post. I then copy paste the next thing, double click the post, add that thing and respond to it. I typically do this several times per post. Virtually all of my posts have edits, sometimes more than 10.

I hold no such fear and as you can tell I don't edit my posts for anyone.

Not even to fix grammar or formatting errors? You're hardcore.

Not sure you keep chanting Glenn Beck? Is he your father? Did he force you into having butt sects with him?

Your opinions mirror his almost exactly, and neither of you found your opinions in anything but dogmatic subculture buzzwords.

I can chant too Shuma.

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Yeah, but in the context it's not as funny to a random passerby, you're responding to a joke with that same joke, but you didn't cleverly reverse it or provide an ad hoc slapstick replacement.

Now if you'll excuse me I have an SKS to clean while I listen to Rush Limbaugh, finish off my case of Bud Light and then put on some Hank Williams Jr and listen to songs about getting drunk and getting into fights.

See? Thats what I'm talking about, that was actually pretty good.


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In my mind you edited that for more "Glen Beck"'s.

You know what's really funny? I did. I copy pasted it for double the Beck.

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ShumaGorath wrote:

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In my mind you edited that for more "Glen Beck"'s.

You know what's really funny? I did. I copy pasted it for double the Beck.

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fate, whenever i side with your on some issues i feel embarrassed by the way you represent the conservative view point you refuse to use logic and just screm obama goning to kill us despite the fact that many of the arguments you are in could be won buy actually expressing some though and showing logic and evidence.

You must be new to political threads. Obama himself could tell Shuma something was a fallacy and Shuma would be looking around for the power cord thinking that he was standing in front of a hologram projector presenting a false image of Obama.

I have linked several articles proving that 90% is false. I just get accused of it being conservative fallacy. I've seen video interviews of the head of the ATF trying to convince Diane Feinstein(sp) that the 90%, 1000's of guns per day is a fallacy.

I could post that video but they can google it. So even when I'm right and I can prove it I just get shot down by Shuma and Dogma (and a few others) that I'm blowing smoke out my ass and trolling.

I can also prove through video that whistleblowers for the FBI have said that the Islamic Brotherhood along with the ACLU have been allowed to sit in on FBI security meetings to make sure that our security measures are not offensive and deemed politically incorrect. Digest that for a moment. Our top security advisors are discussing matters of our nations security with people who we are trying to defend ourselves from to make sure we don't offend them in the process. Absurd and treasonous.

I'll leave you all with a video. I know Shuma and Dogma will claim it's right wing propaganda but I'm tired of arguing. I'm going back to my beer and guns. Maybe at the gun show I'll buy an AK47, drive to Mexico and sell it so I can say I am contributing to the drug cartel problem in Mexico that the liberals say we, as a country, are the cause of.


http://www.pjtv.com/v/2930

I am getting pretty tired of the Fateweaver-Shuma show....

The mods must be on vacation. I haven't been banned yet.

Guess I'm not trying hard enough.

Although if I start outright flaming like Shuma has I'll be lowered to his level and than I'd be looking up at Gwar! Not a dig at Gwar as I feel he gets a worst rep than some other trolls on this thread (not to go into names and fingerpointing).

I think this thread needs to be put down like an Islamic terrorist (yes, I did just go there).

You must be new to political threads. Obama himself could tell Shuma something was a fallacy and Shuma would be looking around for the power cord thinking that he was standing in front of a hologram projector presenting a false image of Obama.

Nah, it's pretty easy to recognize vapor holography and I would know if I was wearing the 3d glasses.

I have linked several articles proving that 90% is false. I just get accused of it being conservative fallacy. I've seen video interviews of the head of the ATF trying to convince Diane Feinstein(sp) that the 90%, 1000's of guns per day is a fallacy.

You linked to one, and it was an editorial talking about revisionist statistics. I also never said I agreed with the statistics, just that you argued from an illogical and ethereal position.

I could post that video but they can google it. So even when I'm right and I can prove it I just get shot down by Shuma and Dogma (and a few others) that I'm blowing smoke out my ass and trolling.

Well you draw conclusions then insult people, without actually qualifying your own opinions or positions.

I can also prove through video that whistleblowers for the FBI have said that the Islamic Brotherhood along with the ACLU have been allowed to sit in on FBI security meetings to make sure that our security measures are not offensive and deemed politically incorrect.

What does that have to do with anything..?

I'll leave you all with a video. I know Shuma and Dogma will claim it's right wing propaganda but I'm tired of arguing. I'm going back to my beer and guns.

You sure you haven't already been hitting that beer?

I think this thread needs to be put down like an Islamic terrorist (yes, I did just go there).

....? Don't convicted violent terrorists typically get the death sentence (less often if they are whistle blowers)?

This thread is now officially...

I wish it would die.

I'm tempting to get banned just to flame this thread into oblivion. I wonder how long the second one would be for.

Fateweaver wrote:I can also prove through video that whistleblowers for the FBI have said that the Islamic Brotherhood along with the ACLU have been allowed to sit in on FBI security meetings to make sure that our security measures are not offensive and deemed politically incorrect. Digest that for a moment. Our top security advisors are discussing matters of our nations security with people who we are trying to defend ourselves from to make sure we don't offend them in the process. Absurd and treasonous.

Please do prove this. Because that's a hell of a claim.


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JEB_Stuart wrote:I am getting pretty tired of the Fateweaver-Shuma show....

When a forum is moving along nicely, I find you average a hundred odd posts in a thread where you're a chance at learning something, after that it collapses into partisan rubbish. When a forum isn't working so well you're lucky to get off the first page before it's just tit for tat.

But what can you do?

http://www.pjtv.com/v/2930

Ignoring the fact it's a conservative website the video appears to be genuine and I don't think the 2 men interviewed are pulling anyones legs or making gak up.

I'm sure though someone will try to claim it as phony but I'd even believe it if I had found it on a liberal website and I hate liberal ideology more than I hate a root canal.

Fateweaver wrote:http://www.pjtv.com/v/2930

Ignoring the fact it's a... We are sorry but we are unable to complete your request at this time. Please try again at another time... the video appears to be genuine and I don't think the 2 men interviewed are pulling anyones legs or making gak up.

FTFY.

I also found that quite well timed.