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FlingitNow wrote:

Actually, it's the exact opposite. By the rules, Spore mines aren't removed when they explode, Swarmlord's Paroxysm doesn't work at all, the Doom of Malan'tai doesn't get a 3++ save and the Monolith's gain a shot from every weapon destroyed result.

Wrong again Gwar the rules are clear clear on all these points. Whilst RaW is on you side unfortunately for you RaW =/= The rules, never has done and never will

Actually, the RaW is the rules.

How can rules that are not written be rules?

Why doesn't Paroxysm work at all? Something that lasts until a point that will never occur in fact itself never occurs? Sounds like PaW Philosophy as Written

I think what FlingitNow is trying to say is that sometimes it's not RaW but RaI that is used, simply because no-one, not even GW in all their mighty rules writing experience, manages to express things perfectly ALL THE TIME. When such failures occur, it is us as player's RESPONSIBILITY to consider rectifying the problem.

If you question this, go to the INAT FAQ and search for "Rules Change" and see what kind of results you get

ihatehumans wrote:Why doesn't Paroxysm work at all?

Gah, my mistake, it does work I was thinking of the wording for Psychic Scream

Gwar! wrote:

FlingitNow wrote:

Actually, it's the exact opposite. By the rules, Spore mines aren't removed when they explode, Swarmlord's Paroxysm doesn't work at all, the Doom of Malan'tai doesn't get a 3++ save and the Monolith's gain a shot from every weapon destroyed result.

Wrong again Gwar the rules are clear clear on all these points. Whilst RaW is on you side unfortunately for you RaW =/= The rules, never has done and never will

Actually, the RaW is the rules.

How can rules that are not written be rules?

Rules are the Rules. They, however, may not mean what you think they do.

Actually, the RaW is the rules.

How can rules that are not written be rules?

RAW does not and never will equal The Rules. The rules were designed by gamesworkshop and then they wrote the rulebook to communicate those rules to us. However their writing leaves lots to be desired and their rules are sometimes poorly written but the intention is clear and at other times you can't even be sure what they meant to say.

Clearly and willfully breaking the designers rules is cheating even if you are following the letter of what they wrote (i.e. claiming paroxysm lasts forever or that your spore mines aren't removed when they explode).

RaW is a method for interpreting the rules from the rulebook(s) nothing more, and a highly flawed method at that.

Well, once again, it's been the usual delightful thread, we really appreciate the snide remarks fellas, top work.

Don't forget to come back next time when we argue if you should ever have to remove any model as a casualty if you've borrowed the army as the book only refers to removing your own models.

Blimey, that GW eh , it's almost like they expect people to think a bit and use context.

Jah bless internets.

Oh.. don't insult other users or call them names either. Ta.