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Frazzled wrote:The only good sex offender is a dead sex offender.
That's a bold statement considering that peeing behind a tree can get you added to the sex offender list. I'm pretty sure you've done it; does that mean we can kill you now?
Edit: noticed this was worded too strongly; I don't mean to say someone should kill you.
As soon as you've shown me where someone was actually convicted of such.
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When I was a medical student one of the surgical courses I did was urology, which includes the subject of kidney stones.
If you get kidney stones, sometimes you can pee them out if they are small enough, but if they are the wrong size, they can get stuck in your urethra. You then have to use manipulation to try and get the stone out.
The consultant told us about one case in which a patient of his had this unfortunate occurrence when in a public lavatory. The man was standing there, trying to work the stone out of his penis, and got arrested for public indecency.
Fortunately, when the case came to court, the consultant was able to stand as an expert medical witness to prove that the man was innocent.
.... I was sure that was going to end with a line along the likes of of " it wouldn't stand up in court".
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ChrisWWII wrote: I slept with my 17 year old girlfriend (consensually), I've just committed statutory rape, thus making me a sex offender.
Do you want me to add this to your profile ?
Can we not? That'd just be a tad embarrassing......Then again, I am outside of US jurisdiction...and somehow I doubt the state of California would crucify me for that. But still, I need to watch what I say more I think.
On a completely unrelated note, I've just realized how important a single word can be. Never again will I misquote someone.
Frazzled wrote:
Yep. You want to help stop teen pregnancies? Make statutory rape a capital offence, on the spot.
...I should be mildly concerned I'm trying to prevent two mods from creating a justification for my death. Joy.... I suppose that could work to cut down teen pregnancy, though. Besides, it certain cases it already is be a capital offence on the spot.
"If everything on Earth were rational, nothing would ever happen."
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I am suddenly horrified of going to that dakka tournament in Canterbury now. I really am. Could I get a refund? That and I'm morbidly curious as to why I'm actually going to die...
"If everything on Earth were rational, nothing would ever happen."
~Fyodor Dostoevsky
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
~Hanlon's Razor
ChrisWWII wrote: Besides, it certain cases it already is be a capital offence on the spot.
They call that the "oh its my Dad!" Rule.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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I just don't buy that society should be lenient on sex offenders because someone who broke the law a little less than the "really bad guys" might get into a lot of trouble.
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Monster Rain wrote:I just don't buy that society should be lenient on sex offenders because someone who broke the law a little less than the "really bad guys" might get into a lot of trouble.
Actually, should really depend on sex offender.
Creepy old men who do bad things to children- lock away long time.
Two teens who have consenual intercourse but one happens to be overage and the other just underage- well poor older teen becomes sex offender for life.
Monster Rain wrote:Meh. If its against the law, and you do it, why would you expect any different outcome?
Because it's obviously a different situation. Unless, you're saying that an 18 year old sleeping with a 16 year old is the same as 40 year old raping a 13 year old? I personally think there is a major difference there, and the former situation being a situation that deserves much less punishment than the latter. I fail to see why the former situation is wrong at all, except for the fact that one is above the arbitrary line drawn by the state as being an 'adult'.
I personally think there should be 'degrees' to the sex offender registry in the same vein as there are 'degrees' of murder. A man who accidentally hits a pedestrian and kills him does not have the same punish as one who committed the pre-meditated murder of another. There's a difference there, and there's a difference above. As was said, that's why our justice system is not: 'You stole a candy bar. You will suffer the same punishment as a man who murdered his family in cold blood.'
Edit: WarOne....why? Why Flying Spaghetti Monster, why? My eyes burn.
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"If everything on Earth were rational, nothing would ever happen."
~Fyodor Dostoevsky
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
~Hanlon's Razor
Monster Rain wrote:Meh. If its against the law, and you do it, why would you expect any different outcome?
Because it's obviously a different situation. Unless, you're saying that an 18 year old sleeping with a 16 year old is the same as 40 year old raping a 13 year old? I personally think there is a major difference there, and the former situation being a situation that deserves much less punishment than the latter. I fail to see why the former situation is wrong at all, except for the fact that one is above the arbitrary line drawn by the state as being an 'adult'.
I personally think there should be 'degrees' to the sex offender registry in the same vein as there are 'degrees' of murder. A man who accidentally hits a pedestrian and kills him does not have the same punish as one who committed the pre-meditated murder of another. There's a difference there, and there's a difference above. As was said, that's why our justice system is not: 'You stole a candy bar. You will suffer the same punishment as a man who murdered his family in cold blood.'
I think that would be fine, but while things are the way that they are I'm afraid I can't get all riled up about people getting in trouble for doing things that they know are illegal.
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Monster Rain wrote:Meh. If its against the law, and you do it, why would you expect any different outcome?
For the same reason why we don't have one punishment for all crimes.
Thats where we went wrong. What would Hammurabi do?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Monster Rain wrote:Meh. If its against the law, and you do it, why would you expect any different outcome?
Because it's obviously a different situation. Unless, you're saying that an 18 year old sleeping with a 16 year old is the same as 40 year old raping a 13 year old? I personally think there is a major difference there, and the former situation being a situation that deserves much less punishment than the latter. I fail to see why the former situation is wrong at all, except for the fact that one is above the arbitrary line drawn by the state as being an 'adult'.
I personally think there should be 'degrees' to the sex offender registry in the same vein as there are 'degrees' of murder. A man who accidentally hits a pedestrian and kills him does not have the same punish as one who committed the pre-meditated murder of another. There's a difference there, and there's a difference above. As was said, that's why our justice system is not: 'You stole a candy bar. You will suffer the same punishment as a man who murdered his family in cold blood.'
Edit: WarOne....why? Why Flying Spaghetti Monster, why? My eyes burn.
If you capped the overage guy, then he would be committing a crime with the underage girl, and we wouldn't be having more underage children. Problem - solution.
Protip-if you don't like the punishment, don't do the crime.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Monster Rain wrote:I just don't buy that society should be lenient on sex offenders because someone who broke the law a little less than the "really bad guys" might get into a lot of trouble.
Actually, should really depend on sex offender.
Creepy old men who do bad things to children- lock away long time.
Two teens who have consenual intercourse but one happens to be overage and the other just underage- well poor older teen becomes sex offender for life.
Two teens who are both underage both become sex offenders for life.
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Frazzled wrote:
Ahtman wrote:
Monster Rain wrote:Meh. If its against the law, and you do it, why would you expect any different outcome?
For the same reason why we don't have one punishment for all crimes.
Thats where we went wrong. What would Hammurabi do?
He would get hauled in front of the Supreme Court for violation of the constitutional prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment.
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On the sex offender argument i kinda had this out with my missus, and it escalated into a kinda, real argument because she was offended, but i was basically saying that there is a big difference between a young man 16-25 or something shagging a 15 year old girl, and a 50 year old man shagging a five year old girl. I think she got more offended because the legal age here is 16 (hence i picked 15) and California is 18.
Im not saying its not a terrible thing to do, its morally reprehensible to take advantage of young women, but it just isnt the same thing if your almost of the same age group, and shouldnt be punished as such.
At the end of the day, thats what a court is for, and im pretty sure that the sentance will fit the crime generally speaking. All you have to go off is Chronology, and some women are very mature for 15 while some men are very immature for 20 or whatever, Its very doubtful that a young lad will get strung up for nailing his underage girlfriend if he is 3 or 4 years older if you have a jury and a court with an ounce of common sense.
And hey, arent the Americans a bit harsh with this whole thing? 18 is the legal age? Its 16 here, and the Germans crack on at 14...
And i wont even mention Vatican City..
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
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Yeah ive got personal experience about this kinda stuff thanks to me "putting it about" due to my job. The Americans are alot more conservative, even my current missus (American) thinks some of the stuff ive done is "DISGUSTING" and she was genuinely pissed off about it when i first told her a few years back.
For example i was seeing a German lass on and off for about a year when i was over there with the service, she was smoking hot, taller than me, and only 16 when i met her (an i was 23) she was mature, it caused no issues and i even stayed over at her place and in her bed after i had met her parents a few times. I would go over when i got some leave and stay with the family, eat with them.. chat with them all, it was fine and they all genuinelly seemed to like me.
Needless to say when my current missus started asking me about my (somewhat prolific) past sex life and i casually mentioned i went out with a 16 year old lass when i was in my twenties she basically called me a pervert.
Americans are tight lipped with Sex, strict with booze but loose with guns...
Makes no sense to me,
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
I don't see many tea party candidates getting elected this time round and I don't think that the dems will lose their majority in either the senate or the house.
I think they will... US seems to be all "Glenn Beck" atm...
Scary!
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
The it sucks to be him. Frazzled empathy meter = 0
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Ma55ter_fett wrote:Off topic thread is off topic,
I don't see many tea party candidates getting elected this time round and I don't think that the dems will lose their majority in either the senate or the house.
really? I want what you are smoking.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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I don't see many tea party candidates getting elected this time round and I don't think that the dems will lose their majority in either the senate or the house.
really? I want what you are smoking.
I'm with Ma55ter_fett on this one. We live in a country where generally speaking 40% of the population will always vote Republican and 40% will always vote Democrat regardless of who the candidates on either side are. Out of the remaining 20%, about 5% will lean Republican every election and 5% will lean Democrat but are moveable based on candidates and only 10% of the electoral base is truly moderate in their opinions and will vote strictly on the candidates merits. Most Tea Party candidates simply don't appeal to the 15% of the swing vote they would need to pull and the most successful Tea Party candidates right now are the ones who displaced a Republican candidate in the primaries and are essentially running on the Republican ticket instead of as a true third party. I stand by my earlier predicition that you'll see alot of close (4 to 6 percentage points difference) races falling to the democrats and that you won't see a significant shift in the House. The Republicans might get the Senate depending on how a couple of races turn out but even there I'd only expect to see the gap narrowing rather then the Republicans turning the corner. Possibly the biggest reason for this is that the seats the Tea Party candidates are most likely to win are seats currently held by the Republicans where they displaced an incumbent in the party primary.
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its my Dad!" Rule.
