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nation is a good book. i took me a good time to have a run up to read it with more love but when i was cought i was cought for real. after rereading it i thought about the beginning : rather steampunkish...and liked it even more...

it is a bit sad that he definatly told the story in a way so that he wont do another book in that scene anymore.

and about the jonny maxwell series i liked the first one the most. there are so many hints on games and movies that made me laugh. just the teenage verson of ripley is worth a reread^^...

vik

Nation is one that I need to go out and get. I may treat myself to some more Pratchett for Christmas.

I can never get into the wee free men stuff, I try and sneak up on them in an attempt to surprise them, but I cannot get past the first few pages. Maybe its a mood thing?

the very forst pages are about what is in tiffanys head. she is very alone. and this creates a character thats a bit uneasy to follow through a story. is that your problem? i knew the nac mac feegles from wierd sister (or was it?) and therefore i was bidingmy time and read faithfully onwards. up until tiff used her brother as bait. then i was totaly bought on the book...

there were a few books in my life i couldn´t come to like reading so i stopped. i am currently reading 2034 (sorry for all eventual derails). i will read it through but i dont like it. its depressing and thats the thing to be said for pratchett books, they seldom make you depressed. nightwatch and thud were the few i would say did that to me, but they changed my moods by the page so i could stick to it...

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:the very forst pages are about what is in tiffanys head. she is very alone. and this creates a character thats a bit uneasy to follow through a story. is that your problem? i knew the nac mac feegles from wierd sister (or was it?) and therefore i was bidingmy time and read faithfully onwards. up until tiff used her brother as bait. then i was totaly bought on the book...

there were a few books in my life i couldn´t come to like reading so i stopped. i am currently reading 2034 (sorry for all eventual derails). i will read it through but i dont like it. its depressing and thats the thing to be said for pratchett books, they seldom make you depressed. nightwatch and thud were the few i would say did that to me, but they changed my moods by the page so i could stick to it...

vik

The feegles (Pictsies!) first made an aperance in carpe jugulum (spelling?), i think. The one with the magpyre vampires

sorry, your correct ...at least i think for now^^...got confused...^^ they do rescue the king of lancre and bring him to theri mount, non?

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:the very forst pages are about what is in tiffanys head. she is very alone. and this creates a character thats a bit uneasy to follow through a story. is that your problem? i knew the nac mac feegles from wierd sister (or was it?) and therefore i was bidingmy time and read faithfully onwards. up until tiff used her brother as bait. then i was totaly bought on the book...

there were a few books in my life i couldn´t come to like reading so i stopped. i am currently reading 2034 (sorry for all eventual derails). i will read it through but i dont like it. its depressing and thats the thing to be said for pratchett books, they seldom make you depressed. nightwatch and thud were the few i would say did that to me, but they changed my moods by the page so i could stick to it...

vik

maybe Its because i haev been locked in 'proper discworld' mode when trying to read them rather than looking at them as similar yet unique...I'll give them another try I think (I got rid of the wee free men hardback and a hatful of sky or whatever its was called).

well for my part i tkink wintersmith is by far the lamest of the three known to me. true there are some funny scenes in it, but for a true pratchett fan merre funnyness isn´t the whole meal... the first one has much to do with how we "taste" reality. its broody and moody and you come out a bit differently before you started to read it. cant say that for wintersmith tho.maybe its because the tiffany boks were so close together published that they are not so thoughtprovoking as "true" discworld novels...

as pratchetts powers are lessen by the days/years i would strongly recommend to read them nonetheless so to have something to read of him. i know i will miss getting new input from the discworld when he is not being able to publish anymore. may the godds go easy on his illness for himm and his family. if i would be in his position and feel my mind to slip from my grip i would probably shoot myself to spare me the misery...

vik, god is it dark and rainy out of my window...

Viktor von Domm wrote:well for my part i tkink wintersmith is by far the lamest of the three known to me. true there are some funny scenes in it, but for a true pratchett fan merre funnyness isn´t the whole meal... the first one has much to do with how we "taste" reality. its broody and moody and you come out a bit differently before you started to read it. cant say that for wintersmith tho.maybe its because the tiffany boks were so close together published that they are not so thoughtprovoking as "true" discworld novels...

as pratchetts powers are lessen by the days/years i would strongly recommend to read them nonetheless so to have something to read of him. i know i will miss getting new input from the discworld when he is not being able to publish anymore. may the godds go easy on his illness for himm and his family. if i would be in his position and feel my mind to slip from my grip i would probably shoot myself to spare me the misery...

vik, god is it dark and rainy out of my window...

I like your style Vik!

I think Sir Terry is very much committed to carrying on until the end, either through a cure or the bitter stages of dementia. maybe someone else can help but I cannot remember if he though assisted suicide was an option (for him at least?) He has one of the most voracious types of the disease.

well becomming ill, or disabled is one thing. to loose ones mind is like dieing with open eyes and that slice by slice...
i don´t know whats more brave stciking a barrel in ones mouth ore to stick to the very end (well the percieved end...) .
i just think the world will be a sadder place once he´s not able to write some more. but he will be truely immortla through his work. the thing with assisted suicide is, suicide is a brutal thing for the left ones... but to ask someone to do it for you is even a bit more hard onto the family and friends...
there are some things one shouldn´t think about on a cloudy and dark november day...now where were my razors ...a there is the booze... now what to do?

no only joking, bad taste joking at that...

vik

Thought this was going to be a thread about ultimate frisbee or discgolf or something, but after briefly reading through I am intrigued.
I've never read any Pratchett before (I don't think) but now I definitely want to. What's a good place to start?

Oh and isn't this the guy that made the sword from a meteorite?

rubiksnoob wrote:Thought this was going to be a thread about ultimate frisbee or discgolf or something, but after briefly reading through I am intrigued.
I've never read any Pratchett before (I don't think) but now I definitely want to. What's a good place to start?

Oh and isn't this the guy that made the sword from a meteorite?

I would try
The Colour of Magic
Wyrd sisters
Guards Guards

These will give a good general flavour and lead onto continuation of the main characters.

Going postal is also a good, fairly stand alone, start.



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Viktor von Domm wrote:well becomming ill, or disabled is one thing. to loose ones mind is like dieing with open eyes and that slice by slice...
i don´t know whats more brave stciking a barrel in ones mouth ore to stick to the very end (well the percieved end...) .
i just think the world will be a sadder place once he´s not able to write some more. but he will be truely immortla through his work. the thing with assisted suicide is, suicide is a brutal thing for the left ones... but to ask someone to do it for you is even a bit more hard onto the family and friends...
there are some things one shouldn´t think about on a cloudy and dark november day...now where were my razors ...a there is the booze... now what to do?

no only joking, bad taste joking at that...

vik

bad puns....

Sam Vimes felt like a class traitor every time he wore it. He hated being thought of as one of those people that wore stupid ornamental armour. It was gilt by association.

lol associate is all i want^^...

Mr. Burning wrote:

rubiksnoob wrote:Thought this was going to be a thread about ultimate frisbee or discgolf or something, but after briefly reading through I am intrigued.
I've never read any Pratchett before (I don't think) but now I definitely want to. What's a good place to start?

Oh and isn't this the guy that made the sword from a meteorite?

I would try
The Colour of Magic
Wyrd sisters
Guards Guards

These will give a good general flavour and lead onto continuation of the main characters.

Going postal is also a good, fairly stand alone, start.

Are the first titles you mentioned part of a series? Or does he have just a general universe in which he writes where all the stories take place, but aren't neccesarily related?

@rubiksnoob

The great thing about Pratchet is, that there is a lot of different stories, depending on what you like. Colors of magic and Light Phantastic are the first two books, they are more or less High Fantasy.
The Nghtwatch books, which Guards Guards is the first one of, are more like crime novels.

My first Discworld was Mort, it's the first book where Death is a Major Character.
There's just so many good places to start, but I think Guards Guards will do just fine.

rubiksnoob wrote:

Mr. Burning wrote:

rubiksnoob wrote:Thought this was going to be a thread about ultimate frisbee or discgolf or something, but after briefly reading through I am intrigued.
I've never read any Pratchett before (I don't think) but now I definitely want to. What's a good place to start?

Oh and isn't this the guy that made the sword from a meteorite?

I would try
The Colour of Magic
Wyrd sisters
Guards Guards

These will give a good general flavour and lead onto continuation of the main characters.

Going postal is also a good, fairly stand alone, start.

Are the first titles you mentioned part of a series? Or does he have just a general universe in which he writes where all the stories take place, but aren't neccesarily related?

These are all stand alone, you don't need any prior knowledge of the disc. These examples introduce important characters or groups such as Rincewind, The Watch, The witches and Moist Von Lipwig. if you like Pratchett and the setting you will definitely want to read more.

Death always crops up with comedy moments, whatever book you read.

be warned rubiksnoob you might find yourself to get addicted. its now your last chance to turn around and RUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!! or get absorbed as any other pratchett hesitant reader and gets enlisted to the fold of fans.
got my wife about a year into his books and although she still insist of reading him only once in a while she has read some of them. and will do so in the future...
vik

Just finished The 5th Elephant again. I have to say, this is my favourite Watch Novel so far (though nightwatch is already waiting). It has everything: a mystery, many new characters you can't be too sure about. Vimes fighting Werewolfs. This is another great book where it really shows how he has to hold back to not become what he fights.
Great Stuff! I wish they would make a movie out of this one.

i like the scene where he sits in the hot water and all the star naked werewolfs suround him. then he is bullied into the run and gets out with his freezing trousers...cant get bettern that...well maybe when the gloomy trousers of uncle vanja came into being^^...the axe for the tree, that was so funny yet so toned down humor...the pictures he draws ... never read another author who could do that...

vik

5th elefant is one of my favourites.

I'm afraid I'm reading them too fast. I still haven't found a real voice for vimes in my head and I can't shake the feeling that he doesn't get any better than in this book.

well since i´m a afther of three youngsters i have to disagree to you. i think thud and nightwatch are the best. and i say this because vimes will get pushed to the very limits of his self contral inthese books. the hiver in thud and the conundrum to make all things set right in nightwatch is something cruel to happen to vimes and how he masters these odds is for me the thing that makes these so good that i have read nigtwatch about 10 times and thud about 6 times at least...

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:well since i´m a afther of three youngsters i have to disagree to you. i think thud and nightwatch are the best. and i say this because vimes will get pushed to the very limits of his self contral inthese books. the hiver in thud and the conundrum to make all things set right in nightwatch is something cruel to happen to vimes and how he masters these odds is for me the thing that makes these so good that i have read nigtwatch about 10 times and thud about 6 times at least...

vik

Nightwatch is possibly my favourite over Thud.

in thuad there is a bit too much dwarf rumble i could do without, nightwatch is very down to earth. i even read the book just anew after i finished it. and i did that procedure often^^...

vik

just btw. you guys do know there's a whole range of 30mm Discworld Miniatures, right?
http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/discworld-miniatures-c-48.html

yep^^ and i always keep myself from bying a death or a vimes...
keeping myself in that way as i currently have no need for them but they would look really good on my parade shelf nevertheless... but first things first...

vik

rubiksnoob wrote:Thought this was going to be a thread about ultimate frisbee or discgolf or something, but after briefly reading through I am intrigued.
I've never read any Pratchett before (I don't think) but now I definitely want to. What's a good place to start?

Oh and isn't this the guy that made the sword from a meteorite?

The books for the most part can be read as standalone novels, but there groups of major characters who have several novels and you'll get more out of them reading those in order. But there's no real order to which of those groups you should read first. (Personally, I wouldn't start with Colour of Magic / Light Fantastic because while they have a charm all of their own, those being his early ones he hadn't fleshed out the world fully yet, and they don't give an acurate taste of what his best work is like).

Here's a useful pictorial guide:
http://www.au.lspace.org/books/reading-order-guides/the-discworld-reading-order-guide-20.jpg

that is a cool find, gives me a good scheme for the santa list for my wife^^ now she can go on shoping with a guide^^

vik

Okay, I finished Nightwatch and yes, it is also really good. But it's not that easy to compare to The Fifth Elephant imo. I'm not sure I could pick a favourite.

Kinda forgot to read Guards! Guards! again. Will change that now.

reread is always a good choice when having a book of pratchett^^

Have just finished re-reading Night Watch, it really is a superb book although Mort will always be my favorite Pratchett book as it was the first one of his that I read.

Truth! Justice! Freedom!

And a Hard-boiled Egg!