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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/02 04:50:17
Subject: Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
Vancouver, BC
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PrometheusZero wrote:Err.... 40M isn't a large number population for a planet! Hell, the UK population is larger than that, and we are a smallish country!
Also, you can have an agri-world that doesn't produce much in volume, for example, say under the ice, there is a small organism which has sci-fi like properties of nutrition, able to make fantastic meal pellets, or some such like!
This way, you could have an ice planet, with a large population (for mining/harvesting the organism/plant/enzyme), who still provides food as main export to Imperium, and so is broadly classed as an agri-world
Looking back, I do agree that 40million isn't a large population for a planet but like stated before, it's an agriworld, the entire planet is basically rolling fields or something like that, minimal population for large food gain. I figure 40 million is probably a good sized population for an agri-world.
Considering Canada has roughly 33-32 mil, 1 person per square km, I think if the process of agriculture was mostly automated, I think it would work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/03 00:37:39
Subject: Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Agri-worlds are, as we say in my Dark Heresy game, "Planet Iowa". Lots of empty space given over to fairly low-tech farming concerns, with generally a single city of size to house the space-port facilities to get the crops off-world for use elsewhere in the Imperium.
That said, 40m people isn't a lot when you're talking about an Earth-sized planet (which has over 100 times that population). Still, most agri-worlds are fairly low-tech, using 20th century-era farming methods (tractors, threshers, piloted seeding machines, etc.) or, worse, a feudal level of technology with animal-pulled plows and hand-sown (and harvested!) fields. You could easily have an agri-world of rolling hills and fields of grain or grox with a population of 40 million, with a required tithe every 10 years of 10% of its population for the Munitorum, thus fielding a 4-million soldier-strong IG regiment.
Being an agri-world, like many agrarian societies on Earth, family size would tend to be large and, if you wanted to make the tithe a bit easier to bear on the planet as a whole, allow the planet to have co-ed IG units. Flak armor and las-guns are cheap, toss in a few native predators and your farmboys/farmgirls are already a handy shot and accustomed to hard work, long hours, and are probably a cut above the average hiver in physical build and capabilities (corn-fed, as the saying goes).
Or, cut the agri-world idea out of it and make it an Imperial World. Larger cities, with a mix of mining and industry surrounding these cities with agricultural concerns more remotely located in the hinterlands that produces food for the planet, with a smaller percentage dedicated to export/tithe requirements. Then, your IG regiments are a mix of miners, forge-workers, farmhands and urbanites.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/07 18:23:50
Subject: Re:Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Small side note: How common is possesion while travalling through the warp?
My regiment travels with around 10.000 soldiersthrough the warp and 9 get possesed and manage to kill 6 others. So 15 soldiers die.
Too low amount or too high?
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Overall Record W-L-D = 22-24-15
Bataviran 197th/222nd Catachan "Iron Wolves", arrogant, dedicated and ruthless!
Captain Detlev Vordon, regimental commander.
Colonel Vladimir Russki, regimental commander 222nd Catachan. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/07 22:57:33
Subject: Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
Vancouver, BC
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I don't know much about that but I think with the Gellar field active I don't think any demonic possesions are possible. Perhaps if there was sabotage or a temporary failure that caused a demon to slip in unnoticed.
15 soldiers dying I don't think is too low as any incursion by demonic forces is a serious matter no matter how small. Comissars might have to execute a couple witnesses. Of course you could have the demon sneak around killing isolated individuals or maybe the navigator getting them trapped in the warp...
But then again this is your story... XD sorry for all that rambling!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 17:05:10
Subject: Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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Well you could always as i suggested have a lone mandrake slip in to kill you commander. And kill some others trying to get away, and then dissappearing into shadows
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1250 Eldar
1250 Dark Eldar (still building)
DE Kabal fluff
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/338476.page
Human: Why are you so cruel.
DE: Why not. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 17:38:08
Subject: Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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loner wrote:
Servo skullls, can they be used as beekeepers?
This is such a hilariously awesome idea that it's sigworthy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 17:52:14
Subject: Re:Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Why not? I mean, my planet regards robots and servitors as different so I'm sure they can abuse servo-skulls.
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Overall Record W-L-D = 22-24-15
Bataviran 197th/222nd Catachan "Iron Wolves", arrogant, dedicated and ruthless!
Captain Detlev Vordon, regimental commander.
Colonel Vladimir Russki, regimental commander 222nd Catachan. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 18:00:30
Subject: Re:Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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loner wrote:Why not? I mean, my planet regards robots and servitors as different so I'm sure they can abuse servo-skulls.
I didn't see anything wrong with it. My perception of servo-skulls is that they're regarded as a sort of extreme honor conveyed on servants. Space Marines also tend to use them as personal adjucants, and Inquisitors have an almost spiritual link to them.
Using them for something as mundane as beekeeping is silly, but not inconsistent with the fluff.
Also, aren't robots frowned upon by the IoM? Or am I getting 40k confused with Dune again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 19:29:07
Subject: Re:Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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My mistake, robots are indeed frowned down upon.
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Overall Record W-L-D = 22-24-15
Bataviran 197th/222nd Catachan "Iron Wolves", arrogant, dedicated and ruthless!
Captain Detlev Vordon, regimental commander.
Colonel Vladimir Russki, regimental commander 222nd Catachan. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/16 20:27:59
Subject: Re:Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Hey,
Just wondering, let's say a population rebelled against the Emperor and turned to Chaos.
However, when they are losing the war, they try to surrender.
Would they be spared/ be taken prisoner or will they be shot?
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Overall Record W-L-D = 22-24-15
Bataviran 197th/222nd Catachan "Iron Wolves", arrogant, dedicated and ruthless!
Captain Detlev Vordon, regimental commander.
Colonel Vladimir Russki, regimental commander 222nd Catachan. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/16 20:28:36
Subject: Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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shot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 00:58:38
Subject: Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Mysterious Techpriest
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Shot, sir? Please. Burned.
The necessary purification would take years, and in most cases Exterminatus would simply be called outright after the traitorous population had been culled.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 01:03:33
Subject: Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
Vancouver, BC
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They could be "forgiven", forgiven as in the ROYAL forgiven....
Which involves penal colonies (if they're lucky), purging flames, or exterminatus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 15:53:44
Subject: Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Owain wrote:Shot, sir? Please. Burned.
The necessary purification would take years, and in most cases Exterminatus would simply be called outright after the traitorous population had been culled.
No, there's no need to destroy a planet after everyone has been killed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 16:56:12
Subject: Re:Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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It's more like a civil war.
So the original population wouldn't like it if the Imperium destroyeed their planet when the loyalists are winning the war.
It's more to see what possibilities there are.
I can also change it to make it look like the heretics fought untill the died...
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Overall Record W-L-D = 22-24-15
Bataviran 197th/222nd Catachan "Iron Wolves", arrogant, dedicated and ruthless!
Captain Detlev Vordon, regimental commander.
Colonel Vladimir Russki, regimental commander 222nd Catachan. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/29 06:05:53
Subject: Re:Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Hey,
Just wondering... Would a scorched earth-like tactic be effective against Tyranids fluff-wise?
Much like the Red army did in World war two or like Napoleon.
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Overall Record W-L-D = 22-24-15
Bataviran 197th/222nd Catachan "Iron Wolves", arrogant, dedicated and ruthless!
Captain Detlev Vordon, regimental commander.
Colonel Vladimir Russki, regimental commander 222nd Catachan. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/29 12:04:58
Subject: Re:Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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loner wrote:It's more like a civil war.
So the original population wouldn't like it if the Imperium destroyeed their planet when the loyalists are winning the war.
It's more to see what possibilities there are.
You should look up the Death Korps of Krieg. I'm pretty sure this is what happened to them.
Just wondering... Would a scorched earth-like tactic be effective against Tyranids fluff-wise?
I believe Kryptman did this against one of the Hive Fleets; force them to expend as much biomass as possible on taking a world, then Virus Bomb it, causing them to waste that biomass (rather than recovering it from the planet). It kind of works, but we're talking about something like dozens of sectors here, and even then it only slows them rather than stops them. Against a small splinter fleet it might be a bit more effective, but it doesn't really work on the planetary scale (i.e., you can't just burn resources while you're still on the world, you have to burn everything. And even then, do it so thoroughly that the Hive Ships can't reabsorb any of it.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/08 20:12:00
Subject: Re:Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Another question:
The squigs, are they hunted by the Imperium as Xenos or regarded as ''normal'' animals.
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Overall Record W-L-D = 22-24-15
Bataviran 197th/222nd Catachan "Iron Wolves", arrogant, dedicated and ruthless!
Captain Detlev Vordon, regimental commander.
Colonel Vladimir Russki, regimental commander 222nd Catachan. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/08 21:08:39
Subject: Re:Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Dakka Veteran
Eye of Terra.
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Squigs are too closely associated with the Orks to be left untouched imho.
BTW, Batavirans?, Adrennians who excel at ditch digging? All on an Agri world?... Who do you think you are? Dutch?
Just don't grow tulips, I think most races would want to declare exterminatus just because... then again, maybe that's why the tyranids want your planet!
Tyranids love tulips...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/09 13:50:06
Subject: Re:Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Uhlan wrote:Squigs are too closely associated with the Orks to be left untouched imho.
BTW, Batavirans?, Adrennians who excel at ditch digging? All on an Agri world?... Who do you think you are? Dutch?
Just don't grow tulips, I think most races would want to declare exterminatus just because... then again, maybe that's why the tyranids want your planet!
Tyranids love tulips...
Ardennia (upon another planet) refers to Germany. The German people often come to our beaches, dig holes and then run away again...
And yes, I'm Dutch and there are a lot of references towards it.
Some are smaller then others.
For example cow cavalary ---> cows everywhere, Onux soup ---> Unox soup?
Geographical/Historical? Try the battle of Alkenmeer (Alkmaar) or Elysian droptroops in Arnheim. (Market Garden)
Actually I did't want to do tulips, but if you like it then we might just do it.
Does anyone have some info about the Blade of Infinity? It says something in the rulebook about it, but I cannot find any other information...
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Overall Record W-L-D = 22-24-15
Bataviran 197th/222nd Catachan "Iron Wolves", arrogant, dedicated and ruthless!
Captain Detlev Vordon, regimental commander.
Colonel Vladimir Russki, regimental commander 222nd Catachan. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/09 19:49:33
Subject: Re:Loner's useless fluff related question topic
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
York/London(for weekends) oh for the glory of the british rail industry
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loner wrote:Another question:
The squigs, are they hunted by the Imperium as Xenos or regarded as ''normal'' animals.
Squigs are part of the Ork ecosytem, they release spores just like all ork creatures, so will if unchecked lead to ork infestation.
loner wrote:Hey,
Just wondering, let's say a population rebelled against the Emperor and turned to Chaos.
However, when they are losing the war, they try to surrender.
Would they be spared/ be taken prisoner or will they be shot?
They would all be executed, if the turn to chaos wasn't to bad or the planet was too important people would be shipped in from a hive world to repopulate.
loner wrote:Why not? I mean, my planet regards robots and servitors as different so I'm sure they can abuse servo-skulls.
Robots are a big no-no in the IoM, unnatural intelligence is illegal in the IoM.
loner wrote:Small side note: How common is possesion while travalling through the warp?
My regiment travels with around 10.000 soldiersthrough the warp and 9 get possesed and manage to kill 6 others. So 15 soldiers die.
Too low amount or too high?
As long as the Gellar Field is working there will be no possession, if it fails Everyone gets eaten (not possessed, actually eaten). The Gellar Field generators are designed to keep deamons out.
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