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Mr Hyena wrote:I don't know whats hilarious about Multilazor Mahreens and Back-flipping Terminators or Slanneshi Eldar.

If you smoke some crack right before you read it, it's the most hilarious thing ever. Don't feel bad, either, I mean he obviously smoked some when he wrote it.

Has anyone else ever found it weird how one author writes the fluff AND the rules? I've always felt at the least they should have one guy who writes the rules, and one guy who writes the fluff.

Indeed, then they could have people that are good at writing each of those things do it, and it would work great!
But alas, that is unlikely to happen.

BobTheChainsaw wrote:Has anyone else ever found it weird how one author writes the fluff AND the rules? I've always felt at the least they should have one guy who writes the rules, and one guy who writes the fluff.

Matt Ward claimed responsibility for the Battle of Maccrage in the Tyranid codex.

There, you got your wish.

Noisy_Marine wrote:Noez! I want my CSM to have over the top rules. I'll just ignore the bad fluffz!

Doesn't the BA codex basically have the same problems as the CSM one? Lots of marginal units that don't balance well for their point cost, but a few specific things that make for a really great build? Matt ward doesn't really seem to be a solution there.

thehod wrote:For me its the introduction of ++3 stormshields and adding ++3 for some marine characters. That and the handing out of FNP like candy is a bit much.

Where does he hand out FNP like candy? The Space Marine codex has it on apothecaries, which is fine, and what, Chaplain Cassius? The Blood Angels codex has it on Death Company who've had it for a while, and Sanguinary Priests, who weren't in the stopgap codex but were in the 2nd and 3rd edition books. The 3++ saves get kinda nuts, but at least they balanced them a bit better for Blood Angels, making them pay extra for them on assault Terminators.

Brother SRM wrote:

thehod wrote:For me its the introduction of ++3 stormshields and adding ++3 for some marine characters. That and the handing out of FNP like candy is a bit much.

Where does he hand out FNP like candy? The Space Marine codex has it on apothecaries, which is fine, and what, Chaplain Cassius? The Blood Angels codex has it on Death Company who've had it for a while, and Sanguinary Priests, who weren't in the stopgap codex but were in the 2nd and 3rd edition books. The 3++ saves get kinda nuts, but at least they balanced them a bit better for Blood Angels, making them pay extra for them on assault Terminators.

Yes, Space Marines have apothecaries who give FNP to the command squad. BA has it's version of command squad too, for exactly same price. Who just happen to get furious charge too. And FNP reaches out to all units in 6" from sanguinary noviciate. In addition they can buy sanguinary priest and have FNP+furious charge for whole army. I think that's "handing out FNP like candy"

Thunder555 wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

thehod wrote:For me its the introduction of ++3 stormshields and adding ++3 for some marine characters. That and the handing out of FNP like candy is a bit much.

Where does he hand out FNP like candy? The Space Marine codex has it on apothecaries, which is fine, and what, Chaplain Cassius? The Blood Angels codex has it on Death Company who've had it for a while, and Sanguinary Priests, who weren't in the stopgap codex but were in the 2nd and 3rd edition books. The 3++ saves get kinda nuts, but at least they balanced them a bit better for Blood Angels, making them pay extra for them on assault Terminators.

Yes, Space Marines have apothecaries who give FNP to the command squad. BA has it's version of command squad too, for exactly same price. Who just happen to get furious charge too. And FNP reaches out to all units in 6" from sanguinary noviciate. In addition they can buy sanguinary priest and have FNP+furious charge for whole army. I think that's "handing out FNP like candy"

I agree. I liked it when Universal Special Rules were something 'special'. It's not just Matt Ward though (as much as I'd like to pin everything wrong with 40K on him) - look at the Dark Eldar codex. How many ways can something get FNP there? Drugs, attach a Haemonculi, kill something, indirectly kill something.

And, the word on the street is WBB is going to straight FNP. It should just have it's own chapter in the rulebook with a Matt Ward-esque fluff piece about a single Termagant assaulting the First Company of a marine chapter and slaughtering every last one, because it "felt no pain".

Thunder555 wrote:
Yes, Space Marines have apothecaries who give FNP to the command squad. BA has it's version of command squad too, for exactly same price. Who just happen to get furious charge too. And FNP reaches out to all units in 6" from sanguinary noviciate. In addition they can buy sanguinary priest and have FNP+furious charge for whole army. I think that's "handing out FNP like candy"

I knew how Sanguinary Priests worked, and have no problems with them. Didn't know Honor Guard gave it out in a bubble though; that's nasty. Sanguinary Priests aren't really that deadly though, and are easy killpoints in annihilation. I liked it when they were less commonplace though.