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ShumaGorath wrote:It's not, but spam posts are harder to detect when they're couched in "political opinion" so he gets to keep making them. He knows full well what he's saying and why it doesn't make sense. Half of frazzleds posts in OT are flamebait designed to bring out a negative reaction from left leaning members.

Maybe 10% of fraz's posts are flame bait. About another 20% are spamming the Republican talking points of the day. But then there's like another 10% that are actually reasoned, interesting points.

Of course there's that whole other 50% about weiner dogs and texmex food.


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AustonT wrote:Ahh but the left leaning members get to call people douches and dicks and that apparently is ok; so it all evens out in the end.

Thing is, it really shouldn't be unacceptable to call someone a dick when they are acting like a dick. Being deliberating obtuse, refusing to accept basic facts that are well known or that have been established with outsides sources, and moving the topic around when you can't defend a position anymore is at least as poor as calling someone a rude word.

I'm not saying any of that to defend left wingers calling right wingers name, the above goes both ways. I guess my point is that moderating well is a really hard job, and worrying about name calling and nothing else would not be good, or effective moderating.

Joey wrote:

biccat wrote:

Joey wrote:Right-wing politicians deny class system exists.
Class system does actually exist.
Nothing new.

Left wing politicians argue that class system is rigid.
Class system is not actually rigid.
Nothing new.

Social mobility in the UK has all but ground to a halt thanks to piss-poor education for the masses.
Apparently the US isn't much better.

This graph only proves what we all already know, Scandinavians are the gak. Even the socialist whiners who didn't emigrate to America.

Ahtman wrote:

something something about spam posts...

Remember kids, when people you disagree with use inflated rhetoric to make a point, they're being inflamatory and are just plain wrong. When people you agree with use inflated rhetoric, they're being clever.

sebster wrote:

AustonT wrote:Ahh but the left leaning members get to call people douches and dicks and that apparently is ok; so it all evens out in the end.

Thing is, it really shouldn't be unacceptable to call someone a dick when they are acting like a dick. Being deliberating obtuse, refusing to accept basic facts that are well known or that have been established with outsides sources, and moving the topic around when you can't defend a position anymore is at least as poor as calling someone a rude word.

I'm not saying any of that to defend left wingers calling right wingers name, the above goes both ways. I guess my point is that moderating well is a really hard job, and worrying about name calling and nothing else would not be good, or effective moderating.

I was actually specifically referencing THIS thread when I wrote that.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/450237.page
In which one left leaning member goes after another left leaning (I think) member with no apparent provocation. Ahtman just happened to be in a "the shoe fits" situation. I'm not innocent of going after people, it happens. Frazzled comments which may or may not be deliberately provocative and obtuse also keep a lot of topics going and further discussion. They may in fact be his opinion which like or not he has the right to give. Insults don't do much of anything except start an argument which inevitably does lead to moderation.

AustonT wrote:Ahtman just happened to be in a "the shoe fits" situation.

If you recall, when I referred to you as such, it was both apt, accurate, and limited to that instance, not a generic claim. It is both feckless and disingenuous to play the victim here; to act as if it didn't come after you being incredibly insulting is a bit of a stretch. If you want to continue to relive past dalliances we can do that or we can just move on and leave past posts in the past.

Ahtman wrote:

AustonT wrote:Ahtman just happened to be in a "the shoe fits" situation.

If you recall, when I referred to you as such, it was both apt, accurate, and limited to that instance, not a generic claim. It is both feckless and disingenuous to play the victim here; to act as if it didn't come after you being incredibly insulting is a bit of a stretch. If you want to continue to relive past dalliances we can do that or we can just move on and leave past posts in the past.

So...

It's victim blaming time?

Chowderhead wrote:

Ahtman wrote:

AustonT wrote:Ahtman just happened to be in a "the shoe fits" situation.

If you recall, when I referred to you as such, it was both apt, accurate, and limited to that instance, not a generic claim. It is both feckless and disingenuous to play the victim here; to act as if it didn't come after you being incredibly insulting is a bit of a stretch. If you want to continue to relive past dalliances we can do that or we can just move on and leave past posts in the past.

So...

It's victim blaming time?

We'd have to have a victim first, but forgoing that, isn't it always?

Ahtman wrote:

AustonT wrote:Ahtman just happened to be in a "the shoe fits" situation.

If you recall, when I referred to you as such, it was both apt, accurate, and limited to that instance, not a generic claim. It is both feckless and disingenuous to play the victim here; to act as if it didn't come after you being incredibly insulting is a bit of a stretch. If you want to continue to relive past dalliances we can do that or we can just move on and leave past posts in the past.

I see the shoe still fits.

sebster wrote:[Thing is, it really shouldn't be unacceptable to call someone a dick when they are acting like a dick.

I agree. I should be able to beat you to death with an angry wiener dog when you are deserving of being beaten to death with an angry wiener dog. Unfortunately we are in a less civilized place and can't do that. Its a shame really, my wiener dogs need a workout.

biccat wrote:
something something about spam posts...

Remember kids, when people you disagree with use inflated rhetoric to make a point, they're being inflamatory and are just plain wrong. When people you agree with use inflated rhetoric, they're being clever.

I don't think you know what spam is...

But, pretending that you do as regards your second and third sentences, this is apt:

I've created a monster.

AustonT wrote:I've created a monster.

Weren't we talking about equality of opportunity and why it was a such a crock of political bull at one point?

We all have the equality of opportunity to be dicks and douches in this thread. Therefore, it is always on topic.