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Jihadin wrote:Youbedead...thanks...just by reading that I gain 2lbs

Mead, wench's, fighting, feasting, then more fighting, then more feasting, then fighting again, then more mead. Yeah, sounds fun

sebster wrote:
No, that isn't banning, because the Mayor has no direct power to pick and choose what franchise junk food stores set up.

It depends on city. In Chicago, for example, its a de facto ban.

youbedead wrote:

Relapse wrote:So much for free speach.

I'm guessing you didn't read the thread, or the letter

From almost everything I've read, including the letter at first, the Jackass wrote a letter that pretty much says, don't open a restaurant here
Because of your stated beliefs. If that was done to a minority, it would be equated to pre civil rights 1960's activities.

Frazzled wrote:
Blech. I can't stand Pollo Loco. Tasteless. Your mileage may vary.

Well, when you're old, and all you can taste is "fried", that makes sense.

youbedead wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:

Jihadin wrote:

Obviously nothing written by men can be interesting or insightful or worthwhile.

If its religion based. No. The only religion that would fit me and accept me is greek/roman Gods. Because if I hold to trapping of todays religion I'm on a express frieght elevator to Hell because I broke every rule.

Some Christians would accept you; the religion's about forgiveness and redemption, after all.

I used to know a guy who was a Mithraist. No reason you can't still worship the Soldiers' God.

I'd go for Odin, or tyr personally, I've heard Valhalla is quite fun

I've known a bunch of Asatruar. If you want to go to Valhalla you would most commonly want Odin or Thor, and be sure to die with your weapon in hand. But I've always had a fondness for Tyr. I wear his rune along with my triskele.

dogma wrote:

Frazzled wrote:
Blech. I can't stand Pollo Loco. Tasteless. Your mileage may vary.

Well, when you're old, and all you can taste is "fried", that makes sense.

touche. The wieners will now deal with your insolence.

Relapse wrote:

youbedead wrote:

Relapse wrote:So much for free speach.

I'm guessing you didn't read the thread, or the letter

From almost everything I've read, including the letter at first, the Jackass wrote a letter that pretty much says, don't open a restaurant here
Because of your stated beliefs. If that was done to a minority, it would be equated to pre civil rights 1960's activities.

Yeah, because telling the KKK you don't like them is JUST LIKE telling black people you don't like them.

Freedom of Speech doesn't come into it because the government isn't restricting Truett Cathy's or his company's speech. A Mayor is saying "your bigoted beliefs and funding of bigoted groups is incompatible with the values of my city, which has its own shameful history of past bigotry, and wants to get past that, thanks." He initially made some comments that did sound like he might be misusing his authority, then clarified he would not.

Mannahnin wrote:

Relapse wrote:

youbedead wrote:

Relapse wrote:So much for free speach.

I'm guessing you didn't read the thread, or the letter

From almost everything I've read, including the letter at first, the Jackass wrote a letter that pretty much says, don't open a restaurant here
Because of your stated beliefs. If that was done to a minority, it would be equated to pre civil rights 1960's activities.

Yeah, because telling the KKK you don't like them is JUST LIKE telling black people you don't like them.

Freedom of Speech doesn't come into it because the government isn't restricting Truett Cathy's or his company's speech. A Mayor is saying "your bigoted beliefs and funding of bigoted groups is incompatible with the values of my city, which has its own shameful history of past bigotry, and wants to get past that, thanks." He initially made some comments that did sound like he might be misusing his authority, then clarified he would not.

Way to go over the top, equating someone that doesn't agree with you to the KKK. Freedom of speech does come into it, because the tone of the letter is threatening.


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The mayor is saying that he will personally do what he can to prevent them from opening a business.

The mayor is saying that he will personally do what he can to prevent them from opening a business.

And he will lose in court because of it

Jihadin wrote:

The mayor is saying that he will personally do what he can to prevent them from opening a business.

And he will lose in court because of it

That will be a good thing, but I foresee "code violations" and lost permits for Chic Fil A.

He made the "quote" so if Chik Fil A tries and is turned down....

I do see Chik Fil A though contributing towards a candidate campaign that run against him.

Relapse wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:

Relapse wrote:From almost everything I've read, including the letter at first, the Jackass wrote a letter that pretty much says, don't open a restaurant here
Because of your stated beliefs. If that was done to a minority, it would be equated to pre civil rights 1960's activities.

Yeah, because telling the KKK you don't like them is JUST LIKE telling black people you don't like them.

Freedom of Speech doesn't come into it because the government isn't restricting Truett Cathy's or his company's speech. A Mayor is saying "your bigoted beliefs and funding of bigoted groups is incompatible with the values of my city, which has its own shameful history of past bigotry, and wants to get past that, thanks." He initially made some comments that did sound like he might be misusing his authority, then clarified he would not.

Way to go over the top, equating someone that doesn't agree with you to the KKK.

If I disagree with them over being prejudiced toward a minority (which they are), then it's not exactly a stretch.

Relapse wrote:Freedom of speech does come into it, because the tone of the letter is threatening.

That's not how it works. The Major has clarified that he would not interfere with their permitting.

Relapse wrote:

Jihadin wrote:

The mayor is saying that he will personally do what he can to prevent them from opening a business.

And he will lose in court because of it

That will be a good thing, but I foresee "code violations" and lost permits for Chic Fil A.

The fact that he has made the public statements he has makes it so that he can't do that, even if he would have. It'd be too obvious.

Jihadin wrote:He made the "quote" so if Chik Fil A tries and is turned down....

I do see Chik Fil A though contributing towards a candidate campaign that run against him.

I like your foresight better than my own.


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@ Mannanhin,

He only " clarified"after he got his ass roasted.

Mannahnin wrote:I wear his rune along with my triskele.

The first time I quickly glanced over this I read tricycle and had to stop and reread it. Now I can't get the image of you walking around with a tricycle under your arm everywhere you go.

Ahtman wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:I wear his rune along with my triskele.

The first time I quickly glanced over this I read tricycle and had to stop and reread it. Now I can't get the image of you walking around with a tricycle under your arm everywhere you go.

Would you feth with a man who carried a tricycle everywhere with a rune of tyr on it, he would feth you up

youbedead wrote:

Ahtman wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:I wear his rune along with my triskele.

The first time I quickly glanced over this I read tricycle and had to stop and reread it. Now I can't get the image of you walking around with a tricycle under your arm everywhere you go.

Would you feth with a man who carried a tricycle everywhere with a rune of tyr on it, he would feth you up

It's my Tricyle of Smiting. The Rune of Tyr gives +2d6 damage against Bigots and Undead.

Boom!

Okay, I'm a bit torn as well. Generally, I'd see it like Ouze regarding the right to compete and people voting with their wallets ... on the other hand, I'm sure that this letter sends a much more powerful message not just to this company, but the nation as a whole. It also makes Boston as a city look good. "We don't need you here, we're doing fine without religious bigotry and hipocrisy."

I mean, even if that branch would not make any money - and it would, simply because most customers would not be aware of the company's stance regarding this issue, not to mention that some only care for their own money - and would have to close again, the managers sure as hell wouldn't attribute this to the company's stance regarding homosexuality but the competition having better prices or people in Boston not liking chicken or whatever. This way, the message is sure to come across.

It's my Tricyle of Smiting. The Rune of Tyr gives +2d6 damage against Bigots and Undead.

Dang...how long did it take you to complete that epic quest?

Jihadin wrote:

It's my Tricyle of Smiting. The Rune of Tyr gives +2d6 damage against Bigots and Undead.

Dang...how long did it take you to complete that epic quest?

No quest; in my church we issue you one if you complete the Paladin sub-path after your first circle Druid training. We really dislike bigots; and undead.

Relapse wrote:
That will be a good thing, but I foresee "code violations" and lost permits for Chic Fil A.

Then perhaps the CEO shouldn't have been an idiot.

Mannahnin wrote:

Jihadin wrote:

It's my Tricyle of Smiting. The Rune of Tyr gives +2d6 damage against Bigots and Undead.

Dang...how long did it take you to complete that epic quest?

No quest; in my church we issue you one if you complete the Paladin sub-path after your first circle Druid training. We really dislike bigots; and undead.

What kind of church allows Druid's to become Paladins?
It's this kind of wishy washy liberalism in the Order that's watering down our Paladins until we are defenseless against the hordes of the undead.
At least with vampires you know where you stand...

Does the bonus stack if something is both undead and a bigot?

What? All kinds of churches have Paladins. In ours all the clergy are Druids first. So your basic religious training is as a Druid. You might additionally study to be a Bard, Ovate, Brehon, among other things. I was really kidding about the Paladins, but I'd like to be one.

Yeah but bigots can take 'Specialised Bigotry' so it stops the stacking effect but they are limited to one type of bigotry powers...


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Mannahnin wrote:What? All kinds of churches have Paladins. In ours all the clergy are Druids first. So your basic religious training is as a Druid. You might additionally study to be a Bard, Ovate, Brehon, among other things. I was really kidding about the Paladins, but I'd like to be one.

I'm watching you...

Yeah, but +2d6 dmg still applies if they have the Bigot type, whether it's specialized or broad spectrum. Eat that 2d6, Truett.

I heard they were changing it to 3d6 in the next edition but they're giving Bigots a 5+ to ignore...

Mannahnin wrote:What? All kinds of churches have Paladins. In ours all the clergy are Druids first. So your basic religious training is as a Druid. You might additionally study to be a Bard, Ovate, Brehon, among other things. I was really kidding about the Paladins, but I'd like to be one.

Multi Classing is Haxxors.

Robert A. Heinlein wrote:A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

That's just if you're a human, of course. Or:
http://danagrove.org/what_an_educated_person_nee.html

And if you're a Druid, it's recommended you also add:
http://danagrove.org/what_a_druid_needs_to_know.html

Relapse wrote:From almost everything I've read, including the letter at first, the Jackass wrote a letter that pretty much says, don't open a restaurant here
Because of your stated beliefs. If that was done to a minority, it would be equated to pre civil rights 1960's activities.

I think your comparison is apt, but not the way you think.

Let's pretend the CEO of Chick-Fil-A released the exact same statement as his now-infamous one, but replaced his endorsement of "traditional marriage values" with "traditional caucasian values". Let's pretend that he released this statement in 1960.

Because that is essentially what he has done. The current climate is just like the era immediately prior to the black civil rights movement, and the Chick-Fil-A CEO has done the equivalent of endorsing a Jim Crow law. While legally he has not done anything legally wrong (to my knowledge), history will show that he is on the wrong side of it, and if the mayor of Boston is in opposition to that, then I hope he continues to hold that office until such a time as history shows him for taking both a legally as well as a socially just stance.

He has a point...
However there's nothing that can't be saved by speccing into murdering psychopath and just going for it.