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Spoiler Tags people; particularly for recent novels.

Sanguinius would pummel the crap out of all of them.

He only lost to Horus because he had been fighting hundreds of bloodthirsters nonstop for three days without sleep.

 Just Dave wrote:
Spoiler Tags people; particularly for recent novels.

Didn't mention a novel dude, so nothing was given away.

What does everyone think the nails would do to Magnus

 AntomanElven wrote:
Sanguinius would pummel the crap out of all of them.

He only lost to Horus because he had been fighting hundreds of bloodthirsters nonstop for three days without sleep.

Where are you getting hundreds of bloodthirsters from? First time he fought a bloodthirster one on one he lost, granted he redeemed himself later but hundreds is bull

 Formosa wrote:

 Just Dave wrote:
Spoiler Tags people; particularly for recent novels.

Didn't mention a novel dude, so nothing was given away.

What does everyone think the nails would do to Magnus

Or you could use spoiler tags anyway, just in case and to save any risk of spoiling it for someone?

One thing that always amazed me about the Butchers Nails/Angron, is that they managed to get the buggers to work on a Primarch...

 Formosa wrote:
Nope not a back stabber, the fight was over in seconds, curze got his ass handed to him, lion is massively more skilled than curze in combat, curzes edge is knowing he will not die, so he can throw himself at any primarch and know he will live, he knows how he will die... And its not a primarch that does it.

In the same story curze fights lion again, but this time it's more equal.

Fact - backstaber saved his life..On that I'm certain...so if backstaber comes with Lion, he has some chance...

Tiarna Fuilteach wrote:

 AntomanElven wrote:
Sanguinius would pummel the crap out of all of them.

He only lost to Horus because he had been fighting hundreds of bloodthirsters nonstop for three days without sleep.

Where are you getting hundreds of bloodthirsters from? First time he fought a bloodthirster one on one he lost, granted he redeemed himself later but hundreds is bull

He fought them during the Horus Heresy on the steps outside Big E's palace. When Terra was getting the everloving crap kicked out of it.

I know the setting your on about mate but I've never seen it mentioned that he fought hundreds of bloodthirsters, sure your not thinking bloodletters?

Tiarna Fuilteach wrote:
I know the setting your on about mate but I've never seen it mentioned that he fought hundreds of bloodthirsters, sure your not thinking bloodletters?

Oh sorry my bad
Yeah it was bloodletters, he only killed one bloodthirster while on terra. Cracked it in half with his knee!

^ Bah, Bloodthirsters are so generic..and Angel boy even lost a first fight....
-Lorgar defeated their chieftain
-Draigo eats them for lunch
-Njal ripped one in half
....continue

I think Curze would clipped his wings and eat him for dinner:-) after he flayed and deep fried him.-)


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Tiarna Fuilteach wrote:
I know the setting your on about mate but I've never seen it mentioned that he fought hundreds of bloodthirsters, sure your not thinking bloodletters?

He fought hundred of deamon princes,thousand of bloodthirsters, and milion of CSM...he defeated them with his psykic fart...

The 18 Primarchs walk into the arena. The ref signals the start.

After a melee of epic violence which can be heard miles away the dust settles around the last man standing.

The ref raises the winner's arm only to stab him under it straight to the hearts.

The ref takes off his mask and reveals Omegon.

Cunning and deception can always overcome brute strength/psychic powers and sometimes plot armor/device.

 Garvy wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
Nope not a back stabber, the fight was over in seconds, curze got his ass handed to him, lion is massively more skilled than curze in combat, curzes edge is knowing he will not die, so he can throw himself at any primarch and know he will live, he knows how he will die... And its not a primarch that does it.

In the same story curze fights lion again, but this time it's more equal.

Fact - backstaber saved his life..On that I'm certain...so if backstaber comes with Lion, he has some chance...

Please dont do this

Fact-

When

Fact- wrong book....

I'm talking about round 2/3, round 1 went to curze as I said before, round 2 was lion hands down, round 3 we dont see the
Result, backstqbber was only present at round 1 and possibly round 3.

 Erik_Morkai wrote:
The 18 Primarchs walk into the arena. The ref signals the start.

After a melee of epic violence which can be heard miles away the dust settles around the last man standing.

The ref raises the winner's arm only to stab him under it straight to the hearts.

The ref takes off his mask and reveals Omegon.

Cunning and deception can always overcome brute strength/psychic powers and sometimes plot armor/device.

This man gets it.

 Exergy wrote:

 mattyrm wrote:

That aside, as always I go with Gulliman, because in real life, the most professional soldier always wins, and Gulliman spends more time squaring his gak away than anybody else.

Soldiers are not equiped to deal with 18 man free for all melees, warriors are.

A soldiers a warrior as well surely? Gulliman probably spends more time than most in the training cages as well.

Think about it, I spent most of my time as a soldier training physically, he's blatantly going to be the bloke cracking 4 hours in the gym while Dorn sits with the perv glove on, Russ gets drunk, Lorgar prays and Night Haunter sits in the dark lamenting.

Seriously, half of the Primarchs are damaged goods, have you read Betrayer? After that I wouldn't put Angron or his legion anywhere near the top of the list for anything, he/they might be good at ripping peoples balls off, but I think you need the whole package to win in a Royal Rumble/war, and they act like mad dogs and display little common sense. As a result id also write off the wolf as well, even though he is awesome, and go with anyone who actually lets their head rule their actions, keeps their heart-rate low and do what's smart in a scrap.

So, the more unassuming ones like Vulkan and Gulliman and Alpharius/Omegon and the like id go with, and id write off all of the ones who seem to have seriously deep rooted emotional issues, so.. well, that's most of them isn't it?


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 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Erik_Morkai wrote:
The 18 Primarchs walk into the arena. The ref signals the start.

After a melee of epic violence which can be heard miles away the dust settles around the last man standing.

The ref raises the winner's arm only to stab him under it straight to the hearts.

The ref takes off his mask and reveals Omegon.

Cunning and deception can always overcome brute strength/psychic powers and sometimes plot armor/device.

This man gets it.

Yes, and Omegon isn't the only one that is cunning and uses his intellect. Sure half of the Primarch's seem to let their emotions run rampant, but Gulliman is certainly a man who utilises the fullest extent of his intellect and remains coldly logical.

See above, I certainly wouldn't write off Alphy and Omegon, but at least 5 or 6 of the Primarchs actually seem able to utilise their intellects.

But Alpharius and Omegon can be seen as the smartest, and noone knows about Omegon, save for the AL themselves.

 thenoobbomb wrote:
But Alpharius and Omegon can be seen as the smartest, and noone knows about Omegon, save for the AL themselves.

And lorgar, and the emperor, maybe Magnus at this point...appart from them

 thenoobbomb wrote:
But Alpharius and Omegon can be seen as the smartest, and noone knows about Omegon, save for the AL themselves.

Well, I don't think you can define "smartest" so easily, in real life as well. Is a mathematician "smarter" than an nuclear physicist? Its not something you can easily quantify is it?

The questions pretty dumb as well obviously, luck will play a big part in a scrap like that, but as a general answer I would say the ones that seem more mentally balanced, so Vulkan, Roboute Guilliman, Magnus, Sanguinius, Jaghatai Khan, Corax, Alpharius or Omegon.

The rest seem all a little fethed in the head to me.

The Primarchs who aren't on the 'RAEG' side of life are all good strategists in a different way though. I agree, luck will be a big part in something like that.

EXCUSE ME, but what about the Khan?



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And also-in answer to the Magnus debate- I would like to remind everyone that Magnus single-handedly killed a gargant and an eldar phantom titan- something that, IIRC, no other primarch has done.

 Phosis T'Kar Jr wrote:
EXCUSE ME, but what about the Khan?



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And also-in answer to the Magnus debate- I would like to remind everyone that Magnus single-handedly killed a gargant and an eldar phantom titan- something that, IIRC, no other primarch has done.

Aye I mentioned the Khan, he's certainly in with a chance, they haven't given enough information about him yet to make an informed opinion really, he's got to be the most fluff light primarch, but he certainly hasn't been given a serious mental issue such as Curze, Russ or Angron so Id happily wager on him.

Agreed on Magnus, I think he didn't go even remotely balls out on Russ at the time as he was still loyal to his father. If he was raging with what he knows about psyching and sorcery I reckon he could pretty much feth anyone except for the big E. Certainly in the fluff they seem to make psykers ridiculously powerful.

 Phosis T'Kar Jr wrote:
EXCUSE ME, but what about the Khan?

What ABOUT the Khan?

He has doesn't jack or gak for entire series. lol

 Phosis T'Kar Jr wrote:
EXCUSE ME, but what about the Khan?



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And also-in answer to the Magnus debate- I would like to remind everyone that Magnus single-handedly killed a gargant and an eldar phantom titan- something that, IIRC, no other primarch has done.

Russ killed a warlord titan with his axe, fulgrim turned a warhound into pink mush with his brain... So yeah others have done it

 Formosa wrote:
Russ killed a warlord titan with his axe, fulgrim turned a warhound into pink mush with his brain... So yeah others have done it

I've heard of Russ destroying a Titan, but never Fulgrim, where are both of these instances from?

From 'The Primarchs'

Also, yes, all these primarchs killed 1 titan each
Magnus killed TWO and an eldar titan is quite a challenge

Oooh that's tough but I would probably have to go with magnus as he would decimate them with psychic attacks.

Sanguinius. Fury, passion, zeal, and stamina combined.

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
Russ killed a warlord titan with his axe, fulgrim turned a warhound into pink mush with his brain... So yeah others have done it

I've heard of Russ destroying a Titan, but never Fulgrim, where are both of these instances from?

Russ destroying a Titan is from WD #233, he leaps on its back from a building and kills the crew, if I recall correctly. Fulgrim uses his psychic powers, yes, he has them now too apparently, to kill the crew of the Titan in Reflection Crack'd from 'The Primarchs'.

In this FFA, Magnus, Sanguinius, Lorgar and Fulgrim are all firing laz0r beams at each other from their eyes. Mortarion, Corax and Russ, hating weird magic people, decide to team up for the time being and gang up on the nasty witch kind one at a time. Magnus is the last standing as he forms a bubble of protective energy around him. Ferrus Manus has other ideas for him however. Asking his buddy Vulkan to do him one last favour, Vulkan picks him up and throws him like a torpedo. With his Magic Hands like a spear he pierces the protective bubble and thunder punches Magnus head off. Ferrus unfortunately isn't able to stop himself and falls off a cliff Will.e Coyote style into some lava.

To say one Primarch is a dead cert seems kinda silly to me as it all comes down to circumstances. If they were all to bundle each other at the same time, who knows who would be the victor. Some have favorites and grievances, some are psychic power houses and brawlers, but at the end of the day they are all Demi Gods and all were created for one thing, to fight and kill.

Yep, Fulgrim transmogrifies the crew and the whole interior of the Titan into like, daemon mush.

 Pilau Rice wrote:

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
Russ killed a warlord titan with his axe, fulgrim turned a warhound into pink mush with his brain... So yeah others have done it

I've heard of Russ destroying a Titan, but never Fulgrim, where are both of these instances from?

Russ destroying a Titan is from WD #233, he leaps on its back from a building and kills the crew, if I recall correctly. Fulgrim uses his psychic powers, yes, he has them now too apparently, to kill the crew of the Titan in Reflection Crack'd from 'The Primarchs'.

In this FFA, Magnus, Sanguinius, Lorgar and Fulgrim are all firing laz0r beams at each other from their eyes. Mortarion, Corax and Russ, hating weird magic people, decide to team up for the time being and gang up on the nasty witch kind one at a time. Magnus is the last standing as he forms a bubble of protective energy around him. Ferrus Manus has other ideas for him however. Asking his buddy Vulkan to do him one last favour, Vulkan picks him up and throws him like a torpedo. With his Magic Hands like a spear he pierces the protective bubble and thunder punches Magnus head off. Ferrus unfortunately isn't able to stop himself and falls off a cliff Will.e Coyote style into some lava.

To say one Primarch is a dead cert seems kinda silly to me as it all comes down to circumstances. If they were all to bundle each other at the same time, who knows who would be the victor. Some have favorites and grievances, some are psychic power houses and brawlers, but at the end of the day they are all Demi Gods and all were created for one thing, to fight and kill.

How dare you fight my argument with logic!! Oh the huge manitee!!

BlaxicanX wrote:

 Phosis T'Kar Jr wrote:
EXCUSE ME, but what about the Khan?

What ABOUT the Khan?

He has doesn't jack or gak for entire series. lol

Friend you really make me laugh trough all of this thread...

Fanboy: My daddy is better then your daddy he can fly and he destroyes houses with his breath
BlaxicanX : No your daddy is a wimp, he was pummeled on more then few occasions...Waaaiit, this is your interpretation of events?
Fanboy : ........