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Geez, I half-expected to see you tell us how you aced the IOC* now, given that you're dakka's resident hero, the Veteran Marine who dates models and your "background in marketing" which also makes you an expert on GW's business tactics. How do you even manage to find time for this hobby?

But that's beside the point. I'd just like to say that this was a pretty low blow against Psienesis there, even by dakka's standards. I mean, really now?

Also, to throw a wench in your analysis: Codex:EoT says that their PDF is selected completely random, so no selection based on chromosomes if we go by GW fluff. And intersystem monitors, if Cadia has any and doesn't just leech on proper Imperial Navy resources, are already part of the PDF, too. And you ignored the bit about Cadian Shock Troop regiments rotating in and out of the Interior Guard, pushing the number of armed residents whilst they are on-site.

*: which, as far as I know, has a 30% failure rate amongst all male applicants, whose number is much, much larger than the four females that attempted it so far

But hey, some people are just very conservative, and I can see why they'd feel their worldview threatened by the changing social climate.

Cadian females are very possible. When it says that most people are in the military, I take it to mean something similar to a real military where only a small portion of military personnel are front line combat arms. The vast majority of military personnel are logistics. This is what makes a military effective or not. Sounds boring, but it's true. The United States Army is an example I know of first hand. Most jobs in the army are truck drivers, armorers, communication, supplies, food, ammo, maintenance, etc. Comparatively, a small percentage are actual front line grunts. In Iraq, women were in combat all the time because "front line" had lost its meaning. All the females in support jobs suddenly found themselves in combat. So, there's one reason to have female figures. Another is the Soviet Army model where they had many successful women in their military from tankers to snipers. I've been in combat and I've seen women in combat and guess what, there's no difference that I saw. Also, if a Cadian woman is in the PDF, she could have a family just like modern militaries. It's not the Roman Legion and so being a soldier doesn't mean you can't have babies. I could go on with more historical precedence and modern examples but sometimes guys just don't like the idea of women in combat roles.

I think it's about time this thread got brought in behind the shed.

MWHistorian wrote:Also, if a Cadian woman is in the PDF, she could have a family just like modern militaries.

That'd even be possible in the mobile Shock Troops - it's part of the Whiteshields fluff that a regiment "happens" to bear offspring whilst campaigning or garrisoning other worlds.
Although I'd suppose that the Guard would only allow pregnancy during Warp translation, whereas it might become a capital offence during a campaign (similar to shooting yourself in the foot to be excused from duty), or they just get "stuff" put into their food.

Kain wrote:I think it's about time this thread got brought in behind the shed.

I concur. It seems threads like these always develop into a crazy sort of gender war sooner or later.

 Kain wrote:
I think it's about time this thread got brought in behind the shed.

I think Veteran Sargeants last post will make a fitting tombstone for the thread. A masterlcass in....well,something or other. Thinking before hitting 'post' maybe.

And by the way Vet Sarge, you refer a lot to 'girls'. Do you think of yourself as a boy rather than a man? And if not then extend that courtesy to the other 50% of the population and assume 'women' unless there is a clear indication of age. Basic courtesy 101. The use of 'breeder' is pretty eye opening too.

 Lynata wrote:

MWHistorian wrote:Also, if a Cadian woman is in the PDF, she could have a family just like modern militaries.

That'd even be possible in the mobile Shock Troops - it's part of the Whiteshields fluff that a regiment "happens" to bear offspring whilst campaigning or garrisoning other worlds.
Although I'd suppose that the Guard would only allow pregnancy during Warp translation, whereas it might become a capital offence during a campaign (similar to shooting yourself in the foot to be excused from duty), or they just get "stuff" put into their food.

Kain wrote:I think it's about time this thread got brought in behind the shed.

I concur. It seems threads like these always develop into a crazy sort of gender war sooner or later.

I also like how people talk all about the superiority of the male body while forgetting that any old Ork boy could take the strongest human to have ever been born and fold him like a pretzel or a Hormagaunt could leap in and literally eat his face before he could register he was in a fight.

Or the fact that it doesn't matter what's between your legs when a bolter turns your torso in to beef stroganoff.

 Melissia wrote:
Or the fact that it doesn't matter what's between your legs when a bolter turns your torso in to beef stroganoff.

Or when a stark raving Khornate Bezerker shrugs off your MANLY punches with his power armor and then drives his chainaxe through your chest like so much tissue paper.

Or when a Howling Banshee effortlessly dances around your MANLY bayonet stabs and swings and then carves you into pieces with her power sword with so much grace than an olympic level fencer would break down into tears at the sight of it.

Or when a Kroot grabs your arm, pulls it off, then bites your head off or blasts through your armor with his gun and like you said, reduces your torso into the consistency of a burger that just got dropped off the empire state building.

Or when a Wych twists around all your attacks, gets on your shoulders while simultaneously carving a hole into your stomach as she flips off before breaking your back with a kick and dragging you into the nearest raider to become the newest toy/livestock in Commoragh.

As the last posts indicated the real matter is Humanity vs the Rest.

Remember the saying "There is no Civilian in the Battle for Survival."

Or when an Ork takes your MANLY bayonet thrust (hurr hurr) directly in the chest, then grabs your head and smashes it like a grape in his hands out of pure adrenaline-induced spite while looking like blade stuck in him doesn't even slow him down.

 Melissia wrote:
Or when an Ork takes your MANLY bayonet thrust (hurr hurr) directly in the chest, then grabs your head and smashes it like a grape in his hands out of pure adrenaline-induced spite while looking like blade stuck in him doesn't even slow him down.

Or when a Necron lets you wail on it for a good minute or so, checks it's chronoobserver while patiently waiting for you to finish, and then recreates the Kali Ma scene from the temple of doom.

Yeah in a setting with species created by Godlike races for the sole purpose of war (Orks, Eldar, Hrud, Jokaero, Umbra etc), Unliving machines with godlike technology that can shatter the stars, A ravenous swarm that vomits out organisms bred to slaughter at close quarters, Genetically engineered eight foot tall quarter ton demigods wrapped around in a manshaped tank, the crazy spikey cousins of said Demigods, and a species that makes up for sucking even harder than you do at close combat by employing it's own species who just love to get stuck in, whether or not you have testicles means very, very little.

Or when a thread gets closed because of all the Mod Alerts and rule breaking in it...?