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 DarknessEternal wrote:
Units that are bad now weren't necessarily always bad. Sometimes the rules change.

The game's been out awhile.

I agree and as i been playing game awhile... I often look at this to purchase additional units for my armies prior to new release... (2nd hand)they often cheaper to buy... example... recently started Eldar at end of 5th... picked up wave serpents and guardians as an example on the cheap .

I also enjoy playing units that are not normally found in armies to throw off the other player and or just to have fun... to me I enjoy the game when i can play it and does not matter if i win or loose... although i will try hard to win

zilka86 wrote:
So besides spending thousands of dollars to play this game i need thousands of playing hrs witb each army to be any good. then ever5yrs you have to buy the books all ove again and new models.

Welcome to the hobby.

I've been playing since about 1997.

That's 16 years... man I'm getting old. In that time I've collected (in order, kinda iirc) Chaos Marines (3.0), Space Marines, Eldar, Orks (very briefly), Chaos Marines (3.5), Necrons(old, oldcrons), Space Marines (4th),

Dark Eldar, Orks (4th), Eldar. I think I may have had some Tau for a bit. And all that is just 40k. Until 4th Ed Space Marines I rarely ever won a game.

Once I figured out my skill I rarely lost. (Massive amounts of infantry... usually 93 models at 1850pts and only because the joke at the time was "if you want to beat marines... you have to outnumber them 2-3 to 1")

But... you don't NEED to buy anything. You either want to or don't want to. Practice makes perfect. And if you don't want to play against kids...

Then maybe you should find a hobby that isn't based around Saturday morning cartoon heroes in space.