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Ok. So I wasn't a Tactical genius. I didn't take an asset that you would be happy with. As for garbage, it seems you are easily amazed. The point was the WAAC. But you keep going ahead spouting this opinion, that has well and truly been hashed out.

And as many have already HASHED out, you appear to be just as much a WAAC as the people you were complaining about....were they right for asking you to "throw" the game? Asking for a concession in tournament play is something that goes on in almost every type of competitive play (look at MTG where a draw with a higher seed can guarantee a trip to top 16 or what have you). As far as them then trying to get the game invalidated...yeah I will agree with you that is D-bag move if it happened. They brought a list specif to beat your pain bringer?? Take that as a learning lesson, keep your mouth shut about what you plan on taking to a tourney. I would bet you were so proud of your epic killing machine that you couldnt help going on about how it was going to stomp everyone....hell for that matter just run disinformation operations. Tell them all one thing and then bring something else entirely like seeding swarm (okay not the best idea for comp play but you get the point). The thing here is you started a thread to rant (just a little, not a lot) about what you thought were WAAC players, but have become very defensive when most people are looking at you with the same raised eyebrow. Probably should take a hard look in the mirror on this one.

You don't read or absorb much do you?
A. I didn't start this thread.
B. MTG - really? Comparing Apocalypse? Absurd.
C.Putting words in my mouth re Stomping opponents.

Disinformation is the purvey of Military intelligence, a greater Oxymoron you will not find. Unless of course, you look hard into a Mirror..

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 quickfuze wrote:
And as many have already HASHED out, you appear to be just as much a WAAC as the people you were complaining about....were they right for asking you to "throw" the game? Asking for a concession in tournament play is something that goes on in almost every type of competitive play (look at MTG where a draw with a higher seed can guarantee a trip to top 16 or what have you). As far as them then trying to get the game invalidated...yeah I will agree with you that is D-bag move if it happened. They brought a list specif to beat your pain bringer?? Take that as a learning lesson, keep your mouth shut about what you plan on taking to a tourney. I would bet you were so proud of your epic killing machine that you couldnt help going on about how it was going to stomp everyone....hell for that matter just run disinformation operations. Tell them all one thing and then bring something else entirely like seeding swarm (okay not the best idea for comp play but you get the point). The thing here is you started a thread to rant (just a little, not a lot) about what you thought were WAAC players, but have become very defensive when most people are looking at you with the same raised eyebrow. Probably should take a hard look in the mirror on this one.

The problem is though, that bringing a Titan just is not WAAC. Bringing a Rending pony. now thats WAAC! Its not finding the best model with the best rules and the most amazing combinations within the rules that makes you WAAC. Its when instead of reading the rules to see if you can do something. Its reading the rules to see if they forget to forbid something that makes you WAAC. Its the attitude that aslong as I win feth everyone elses fun. Bringing a Titan to Apocalypse is pretty much expected of anyone who has one. And if he put down a titan made out of toilet paper rolls that looks like it was made in an afternoon just because it has overpowered rules then maybe i would agree. If he made a Titan speccificly to stomp a tournament then MAYBE. But he made something that you usually never get to use, took an opportunity to show of his cool model which LIKELY he showed of to people because he was proud of actually FINISHING the bloody thing. Which in itself is a miracle when you can count the number of finished emperor titans posted on this board on one hand. He went to a tournament to showcase his work NOT to completely destroy his opposition as some of you seem to be implying.

As stated before taking an anti titan list to APOC is not WAAC either. You expect titans to show up. Tailoring a list to counter one speccific titan you were sure was comming however is like the guy who sits down across the table from you after having seen the armies that came to the tournamet, takes out a pen and modifies his list right before the first game starts so he has a better shot at it. Heck isn't this behavior why tournaments started giving points for army lists sent in in advance? Its just not okay to bring 3000 points to a table when your playing a game of 1500 points and then write the list then and there to crush your opponents list after having seen it. THIS is essentially what happened here.

 quickfuze wrote:
"Asking for a concession in tournament play is something that goes on in almost every type of competitive play (look at MTG where a draw with a higher seed can guarantee a trip to top 16 or what have you)"

Everyone does it so that doesn't make it WAAC is kind of a weak argument because asking your opponent to take a dive to get a better position is called rigging a fight. A generally despised, unsportsman like behavior that fits the acronym WAAC to an absolute W.A.A. and C. (Cus there is no T in WAAC)

This thread it full of troll win!

NickOnwezen wrote:

 quickfuze wrote:
And as many have already HASHED out, you appear to be just as much a WAAC as the people you were complaining about....were they right for asking you to "throw" the game? Asking for a concession in tournament play is something that goes on in almost every type of competitive play (look at MTG where a draw with a higher seed can guarantee a trip to top 16 or what have you). As far as them then trying to get the game invalidated...yeah I will agree with you that is D-bag move if it happened. They brought a list specif to beat your pain bringer?? Take that as a learning lesson, keep your mouth shut about what you plan on taking to a tourney. I would bet you were so proud of your epic killing machine that you couldnt help going on about how it was going to stomp everyone....hell for that matter just run disinformation operations. Tell them all one thing and then bring something else entirely like seeding swarm (okay not the best idea for comp play but you get the point). The thing here is you started a thread to rant (just a little, not a lot) about what you thought were WAAC players, but have become very defensive when most people are looking at you with the same raised eyebrow. Probably should take a hard look in the mirror on this one.

The problem is though, that bringing a Titan just is not WAAC. Bringing a Rending pony. now thats WAAC! Its not finding the best model with the best rules and the most amazing combinations within the rules that makes you WAAC. Its when instead of reading the rules to see if you can do something. Its reading the rules to see if they forget to forbid something that makes you WAAC. Its the attitude that aslong as I win feth everyone elses fun. Bringing a Titan to Apocalypse is pretty much expected of anyone who has one. And if he put down a titan made out of toilet paper rolls that looks like it was made in an afternoon just because it has overpowered rules then maybe i would agree. If he made a Titan speccificly to stomp a tournament then MAYBE. But he made something that you usually never get to use, took an opportunity to show of his cool model which LIKELY he showed of to people because he was proud of actually FINISHING the bloody thing. Which in itself is a miracle when you can count the number of finished emperor titans posted on this board on one hand. He went to a tournament to showcase his work NOT to completely destroy his opposition as some of you seem to be implying.

As stated before taking an anti titan list to APOC is not WAAC either. You expect titans to show up. Tailoring a list to counter one speccific titan you were sure was comming however is like the guy who sits down across the table from you after having seen the armies that came to the tournamet, takes out a pen and modifies his list right before the first game starts so he has a better shot at it. Heck isn't this behavior why tournaments started giving points for army lists sent in in advance? Its just not okay to bring 3000 points to a table when your playing a game of 1500 points and then write the list then and there to crush your opponents list after having seen it. THIS is essentially what happened here.

 quickfuze wrote:
"Asking for a concession in tournament play is something that goes on in almost every type of competitive play (look at MTG where a draw with a higher seed can guarantee a trip to top 16 or what have you)"

Everyone does it so that doesn't make it WAAC is kind of a weak argument because asking your opponent to take a dive to get a better position is called rigging a fight. A generally despised, unsportsman like behavior that fits the acronym WAAC to an absolute W.A.A. and C. (Cus there is no T in WAAC)

Exalted. That is the 2nd time I have seen a shoulder shrug reaction to the "taking a dive" question. It is a disgusting practice, and shows a general lack of integrity (on the person asking and anyone that goes along with it). It definitely fits the WAAC well.