Robocop 2014 - Dakka's thoughts?

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**Ahtman**

Manchu wrote:
But is there anything human left?

Spoiler:

**Manchu**

But noticeably not the script, acting, cinematography, special effects, or score.

**Ahtman**

Manchu wrote:
But noticeably not the script, acting, cinematography, special effects, or score.

There is a human element, but I don't think they did as much as they could. The effects actually are fairly well done, and the acting is occasionally decent as well. The script is a bit to processed for mass consumption to allow for greatness, but it is workmanlike in getting the job done. The cinematography was uninspired and just did what was needed but not much else. I wish they wouldn't have used the old score as much as they did and created an altogether new score for the film. If they wanted to use the older motif to effect they should have been more sparing with it, such as having it come up as he is heading into battle with the ED-209's.

**AegisGrimm**

I think for having some pretty unknown actors (at least to me), the acting in the movie was pretty decent.

**sebster**

Relapse wrote:
In contrast, a review from another critic at the time of release:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bRW2kdVlXyk

Awesome!

"Weird Al Yankovic happy to be invited'

While its no surprise that a couple of decades later almost all those celebrities are either forgotten or hanging on by making fun of themselves, who would have thought it'd be Weird Al who's got more respect for his career than ever before?

And yeah, loads of critics completely missed the point of that movie. But then, loads of critics missed the point about Robocop as well, although disturbingly they liked it anyway

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Manchu wrote:
The remake itself enacts the themes of the original movie: They took a franchise torn to pieces by horrible sequels, license mining, and flat-out neglect and they gave it an ultra slick, strictly-by-the-numbers reboot. But is there anything human left?

That reminds me of the remake of Bewitched, which told the story of remaking a soul-less, pointless remake of Bewitched that absolutely no-one involved wanted to do for any reason other than the money... and that is exactly what we were actually watching. As a piece of meta-commentary it was genius (if accidental). Of course, as a movie, it's probably the worst thing I've ever seen.

**easysauce**

I think I get it now,

the point of this robo cop,

is the make the previous ones look better by comparison.

**Crablezworth**

5/10 It's not as bad as it could have been.

Spoiler:

So problem one for me was that there was no dystopia at all, nothing about ocp buying detroit. That was a pretty big part of the original.

The casting was really good but a lot of the awesome actors got like no screen time. I love michael k williams but he goes to waste, he gets like 1 good line and I'm not even sure why his character is in the movie to begin with. Gary oldman was decent but his character's actions made no sense. Nothing wrong with the acting but the whole concept of his character's actions/motivations were pretty dumb.

Jackie earle haley was enjoyable but his character towards the end wasn't given much time and it was hard to understand why he was such a company man. You hear mention of him being in certain counties during what I assume would be some kind of armed conflict with cool ocp robots but that doesn't tell you much. It's also left super vague as to why ocp was in iran, were they there by request of the iranians or was it to infer that they keep the piece in the wake of a us invasion/occupation.

Keaton was good but his last minute super villain horsegak seemed out of place. The tone of the movie is part of the problem, I feel keaton did his best.

The main problem that bothered me was the whole "americans are conflicted about drones" but apparently were fine allowing orwellian cctv everywhere. A technology that was apparently entirely unused by law enforcement until robocop arrived... that made no fething sense. The most egregious thing of all was bleeping samual l jackson saying melon-fether, that's an insult that is unforgiveable.I underestand that given the context it would one would assume be bleeped but the angle wasn't really the broadxast but in the studio so it just seemed like a cheap trick to try and make you forget you're watching a pg movie. (pg13 in the states)

The two dimensional crime boss villain with a private army felt rushed as hell. The fact that his wife waited weeks before going to the media didn't make a lick of fething sense.

The tragedy is that the director could have probably pulled off a pretty awesome R rated version if it was allowed by the studio to be not justs ultra violent but a little more polemic/edgy. I would take either really, I don't need every action/psifi movie to be smart but you can do a lot with an R rating, dredd was fantastic and it proved that pretty well.

**LordofHats**

Crablezworth wrote:

Spoiler:

So problem one for me was that there was no dystopia at all, nothing about ocp buying detroit. That was a pretty big part of the original.

The main problem that bothered me was the whole "americans are conflicted about drones" but apparently were fine allowing orwellian cctv everywhere. A technology that was apparently entirely unused by law enforcement until robocop arrived... that made no fething sense at all. The most egregious thing of all was bleeping samual l jackson saying melon-fether, that's an insult that is unforgiveable.

I noticed 1 as well. They established fast in the first movie that Detroit was practically a War Zone, but Detroit in the new movie seemed like, normal Detroit (I also felt like some of the cops, not Robocop oddly, came from the Uncanny Valley).

**Crablezworth**

LordofHats wrote:
Crablezworth wrote:

Spoiler:

So problem one for me was that there was no dystopia at all, nothing about ocp buying detroit. That was a pretty big part of the original.

The main problem that bothered me was the whole "americans are conflicted about drones" but apparently were fine allowing orwellian cctv everywhere. A technology that was apparently entirely unused by law enforcement until robocop arrived... that made no fething sense at all. The most egregious thing of all was bleeping samual l jackson saying melon-fether, that's an insult that is unforgiveable.

I noticed 1 as well. They established fast in the first movie that Detroit was practically a War Zone, but Detroit in the new movie seemed like, normal Detroit (I also felt like some of the cops, not Robocop oddly, came from the Uncanny Valley).

The whole thing just kinda felt rushed. There was just too much and the time wasn't divided well.

Spoiler:

**Manchu**

I am okay with Detroit being portrayed realistically for a change. Promoting the tired-out image of Detroit as post-WWII East Germany is insulting, deceitful, and harmful. Plus, this is actually something the new movie gets right.

The consumerist threat to human dignity is not a heavy industry apocalypse. This OCP is more like evil Apple, complete with evil Steve Jobs, than evil '80s GM with its pack-of-weasels executive board. Evil is slick, well-off, invisible.

And I get the impression the whole USA has already sold out long ago, except on the issue of being policed by robot armies. As Crablezwroth points out, there's already an extensive CCTV system in place (even hanging off people's homes), which police seemingly ignore. When he arrives on the scene, RoboCop already fits seamlessly.