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IIRC, the German tanks were a pain to maintain. But if you somehow managed keep all that expensive pieces together and working, then they became armored monsters that ate Shermans for breakfast.

The way I've always heard it said is that a German panzer could eat a Sherman 10 to 1. But there were 11 Shermans for every German tank...

The Sherman, iirc, was engineered with this in mind. It was made to be mass-produceable, and not intended to take on other tanks. It was more Infantry support than battle tank.

If they did need to take on a tank, weren't they supposed to do so at at least 3-to-1?

I'm really resisting the urge to correct you guys and derailing this thread further.

If you want to see how the eastern front went but don't want to buy a book; check out the series "Soviet Storm" on youtube. It's got pretty good CGI to go with the narration too.

See the Germanophile influence in gaming? First teleporting tanks, now people pimping their broken-down crappy tanks.

Kain is absolutely right. The Soviets were a horror show. The horror show happened to include spamming equipment that worked well.

The thread is no big loss, because we all know the old spam sob story. No one will complain about BA tactical marine spam, but WS spam is totally different.

Addaran wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
I'm sick of war games sucking the Germans' you-know-what. They lost. For a reason.

Overconfidence and because they decided to fight 300 armies at once. The German probably had the best soldiers in average. They are one of the elite armies in history. But they fought vastly superior numbers, even if it wasn't always at the same time.

Try doing two 40K game in a row, but the casualties of the first aren't there in the 2nd game. Chances are you'll lose the 2nd one, even if the first went well.

Actually Hitler wanted the Indian soldiers, he once said about the Gurkha troops that he could win the world with them.

(Pity the Indian troops were largely under the control of incompetent Brit commanders )

As for the soviets, by Mid-war they were pretty much eating the German's lunch the battles of Stalingrad and Kursk were basically the endpoint of any German hopes of winning the war

ANYWAY, AWAY FROM history and flames of war, spam is fine as long as it's a tournament or you have justification such as fluff purposes etc.

Well, this seems to have gone a bit off topic. Next time, folks.