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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/27 17:10:23
Subject: Psychic powers and rolling to hit - beams? Crush?
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Don't just state not that one. Quote me so I can address it directly.
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ADD causes my posts to ramble from time to time. Please bear with me.
You're not a Time Lord stick with linear time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/27 17:15:32
Subject: Psychic powers and rolling to hit - beams? Crush?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No, the context is clear. I assume you can remember what you wrote? State if it has escaped you.
You stated a general rule book rule. You have not found it yet, so either you were lying about the rule, or you were mistaken, or you can now find the exact rule you stated exists.
Which is it? Or, in fact, are you creating a rule out of an assumption , as weapons firing multiple shots state this after their type, this means you only fire one shot...but, if you do not have a profile, you cannot know how many shots.
you remain wrong in this. Two rules made up vs one, and no matter how far you stretch, twist and manipulate the rules, even outright making up rules, this will not change.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/27 17:17:48
Subject: Psychic powers and rolling to hit - beams? Crush?
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Thank you for the concession.
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ADD causes my posts to ramble from time to time. Please bear with me.
You're not a Time Lord stick with linear time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/27 17:20:16
Subject: Psychic powers and rolling to hit - beams? Crush?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nope, no concession. You failed to support your rules claim with a quote, so your argument is void.
You're done. Good day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/27 17:24:03
Subject: Psychic powers and rolling to hit - beams? Crush?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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1. Don't make a statement without backing it up.
- You have to give premises for a conclusive statement; without this, there can be no debate. For more detail on how to actually create a logically supported conclusion, please read this article on how to have an intelligent rules debate.
1a. Don't say that someone is wrong, instead you explain why you think their opinion is wrong. Criticize the opinion, not the person.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/27 18:40:04
Subject: Psychic powers and rolling to hit - beams? Crush?
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Unfortunately it also equates, as I displayed above, that all witchfire powers are weapons. It does not list the ones that are or are not nor does it separate them in any way to make such a statement as only the ones with profiles are weapons and therefor you have to roll to hits to them. It states all witchfire must roll to hit. You either have to come up with a way to fulfill said requirement or not use those powers, RAW. Stating they don't tell you what to do with things does not get you past that need. I am basing the T requirement for vehicles off an old statement, as most people are.
It may equate all witchfires to weapons it may not list which ones are and which ones aren't. However we have a specific rule telling us that a weapon must have a profile therefore for a Witchfire to be a weapon it must either have a profile or have a more specific rule stating that it is a weapon even though it does not have a profile. Neither of those is true for focussed witchfires. Therefore we absolutely KNOW that they are not weapons. Any rules that apply to weapons do not apply to them so please stop posting irrelevant rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/27 20:03:15
Subject: Psychic powers and rolling to hit - beams? Crush?
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Making Stuff
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Anyone dizzy yet?
This one will continue to be a mess until GW gets around to finishing writing the psychic rules. Until then, discuss it with your opponent before the game if in doubt.
Moving on.
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