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 MrDwhitey wrote:

Relapse wrote:

but whatever, the guy just got lost on the way to the church bingo game and one thing led to another.

More pathetic nonsense.

Relapse wrote:

Never mind the newspaper article from the event stating she was shot multiple times because it doesn't fit your narrative.

That doesn't mean he went out with the intent to kill her.

It does mean that he did kill her.

Pathetic? That he shot her 3 times? I guess that's your way of calling it.

Again, more pathetic nonsense.

Nowhere did I say that, so you're either trolling or unable to read.

 Dreadwinter wrote:

Relapse wrote:
Just my thought on the matter. They gunned down an elderly couple. When the wife ran out of the building and he chased her down and shot her in the back of the head is the real point I think sealed the idea he be put away for good.

He did not go to the house to murder the couple and made a terrible decision which cost him 40 years of his life and probably an untold amount of grief. There is a difference.

Yet he did not heistate to get rid of all the witnesses. I agree, he needed a sitdown with Old Sparky for his true debt to society payment.

Relapse wrote:

feeder wrote:
If it matters, this guy is out in the world at 64, with no skills and a serious criminal record. Unless he did some major self improvement work in jail, plus has the kind of likeable personality that motivates other people to help him get a real, stable life going, he's going to have a miserable, homeless existence with a premature, lonely death.

He has a wife that stuck by him all the years he was in prison and a job at a local church when he gets out. He did do a lot of self improvement by getting more schooling, etc.

Well, sounds like he did his time wisely then. Hopefully he can earn forgiveness out in society, too.

 Bullockist wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I don't see what is notable about this. It's pretty unusual for a murderer to actually spend their entire life in jail - isn't the average sentence (served) like 17 years for a murder? I'm guessing, I don't know. But 40 years for a double murder seems to me about correct.

I'd like to think the purpose of jail is to rehabilitate someone, ideally. Putting someone in jail until the day they die doesn't seem to serve that purpose well; might as well just give them the needle if that's the case.

I think you are living in the wrong country for that ideal Ouze

I think 40 years is fair, the prisoner has served his time, 40 years is an adult lifespan, his life will be over, he must be an old many now and highly institutionalized.

In the UK actually serving 40 years for anything is extremely rare, murders are often out in under ten years, even one with crimes worse than this. Though that is mostly due to prison overcrowding. We have some prisoners on life tariff, but its rare and most involve child murderers, and the ones that make the press and hit a cord of public revulsion. People like Brady, Huntley and Sutcliffe will remain behind bars for the rest of their lives, and there are rumours of moves by the EU to halt even that.
I would be happy for there to be eventual release, and it is important in many cases, though it should never become a right, some people, and Ian Brady tops my list, deserve to sit and rot for as long as they live. Howeever I am fully opposed to the death penalty, as are most in the UK.