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Prestor Jon wrote:


For the amount of time the media spends discussing gun control they do a horrific job on explaining what the laws already are and how they work, leading to severe misconceptions being held by the general public which allows pointless counter productive measures like the one in WA to pass. It's a depressing level of ignorance.

I will say this about the campaigns though. From the absolutely TINY amount of "local network" TV that I watch, and thus, the tinier amount of local political ads that I see, the Anti-Gun crowd did a very good job playing on the emotions of the issue, their main ad featured a story in which, undoubtedly the seller was heavily fined, if not jailed for his/her role (the story of the ad goes that a "crazy, violent ex-husband, who already had committed crimes previously and could not pass NICS, went onto Craigslist or some such, and bought a firearm from a random somebody. He then went to where his Ex-wife lived and killed her)

On the flip side, the Pro-Gun crowd played on "facts" and "logical reason" using the Sherriff's Council and Police Unions or whatever to "help" you decide how to vote.

After his victory in Wis, I'm calling Walker as a strong contender for President.

 Easy E wrote:
After his victory in Wis, I'm calling Walker as a strong contender for President.

I like him... a lot.

I mean, the Democrats, Big Labor, the teachers’ unions…they have thrown everything they possibly can at Walker three times, and three times he has beaten them. He now has a real reform record and a record of smoking the Democrats in what was a blue state. That’s a formidable record.

But, I seriously doubt he can over come the Clinton name-brand behemoth.

You have this image that people will vote for H. Clinton.

Mark my words, she won't be the nominee.

 Frazzled wrote:
You have this image that people will vote for H. Clinton.

Mark my words, she won't be the nominee.

I'm not sure I'd go that far, but I do think there's potentially a lot of mud that she created, and it won't look good when it gets thrown on her.

 whembly wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
After his victory in Wis, I'm calling Walker as a strong contender for President.

I like him... a lot.

I'm shicked to hear that you like Scott Walker so much.

However, there is no denying that he has somehow managed to survive politically, do some union busting, and continue to carry the water for Republican Ideology. Paul Ryan is nothig and a nobody compared to this guy. Plus, he is a Governor, and they are much more likely to get elected to an Executive branch office than a Legislator.

I am also not convinced the Hilary will be the nominee, don't count out Biden, or some other Politicians with less baggage that don't even have National name recognition yet.

We might have another Obama on our hands.

 Easy E wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
After his victory in Wis, I'm calling Walker as a strong contender for President.

I like him... a lot.

I'm shicked to hear that you like Scott Walker so much.

However, there is no denying that he has somehow managed to survive politically, do some union busting, and continue to carry the water for Republican Ideology. Paul Ryan is nothig and a nobody compared to this guy. Plus, he is a Governor, and they are much more likely to get elected to an Executive branch office than a Legislator.

I am also not convinced the Hilary will be the nominee, don't count out Biden, or some other Politicians with less baggage that don't even have National name recognition yet.

People like Walker and Christie can win in blue states and push back against unions because of the fiscal realities. States forced to balance their budgets need to be able to control their public sector spending. Public service employees shouldn't even be allowed to unionize, even FDR spoke out against it because it's never made sense fiscally. Everyone pays taxes and everyone wants to see their taxes spent appropriately and not go up every year. That's how fiscal conservatives can win elections in blue states, because math.

Hah, take that dems. Liking it. I do hope for dems to push Clinton.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Hah, take that dems. Liking it. I do hope for dems to push Clinton.

Both parties are certainly going to do a lot of pushing. Billions of dollars of political advertising is coming our way and it's going to be inescapable. We don't even have cable or satelite tv anymore and I still got bombarded with flyers in the mail, phone calls, volunteerscanvasing the neighborhood and ads on the radio during my commute. $100,000,000 spent in NC just for one senate seat in a midterm election. From what I've heard about 3 quarters of it was spent by outside groups not the candidates.

 Easy E wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
After his victory in Wis, I'm calling Walker as a strong contender for President.

I like him... a lot.

I'm shicked to hear that you like Scott Walker so much.

However, there is no denying that he has somehow managed to survive politically, do some union busting, and continue to carry the water for Republican Ideology. Paul Ryan is nothig and a nobody compared to this guy. Plus, he is a Governor, and they are much more likely to get elected to an Executive branch office than a Legislator.

True dat.

I am also not convinced the Hilary will be the nominee, don't count out Biden, or some other Politicians with less baggage that don't even have National name recognition yet.

I find it weird that moi, a South Park Conservative, is bullish on Clinton's chances than my liberal friends...

It's because Liberals know that not even Liberals are that excited about Hilary Clinton. How do they expect anyone else to get excited?

And the Clintons are moderate liberals at best. Other than the fact that she's a woman, there is nothing for progressives to get exited for.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
And the Clintons are moderate liberals at best. Other than the fact that she's a woman, there is nothing for progressives to get exited for.

Do they need more?

Just read that some republicans now loudly think about going against Obamafail...awesome. We're excited.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
And the Clintons are moderate liberals at best. Other than the fact that she's a woman, there is nothing for progressives to get exited for.

Do they need more?

Just read that some republicans now loudly think about going against Obamafail...awesome. We're excited.

Well... they did *Run* against Obama's Policy and the ACA.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
And the Clintons are moderate liberals at best. Other than the fact that she's a woman, there is nothing for progressives to get exited for.

Do they need more?

Just read that some republicans now loudly think about going against Obamafail...awesome. We're excited.

I really, really hope they do. The more the merrier.

However, I think the R establishment has managed to rope in most of the Goat show this election, and they will do it again for the Presidenial Primaries.