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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 03:27:46
Subject: Re:Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Experiment 626 wrote: Peter Wiggin wrote:Its interesting that this atrocity is buried under the headlines about muslim terrorist cells in Europe. I mean I get it....the whole Charlie Hedbo thing is literally, specifically, and pointedly an attack on the concept of free speech because it dishonored a particular religion. Western minds see that as a special kind of awful.
Still, important to remember that the folks who suffer the most from muslim (and to a larger degree Abrahamic) terrorism are invariably the poor & powerless in underdeveloped regions.
Actually, it's more so the case that;
1. The vast majority of people killed by Islamist extremists are other Muslims.
2. The vast majority of the atrocities are carried out 'over there' and/or in countries that hold little worth for Western governments, as well as also being notoriously corrupt and tyrannical themselves.
3. The Liberal left & their bleeding heart socialist cheerleaders are too concerned with discussing BS like 'root causes' or else feel good Twitter whining campaigns, rather than taking the very much required action to stamp out this rapidly growing problem.
Nothing will change until a truly catastrophic attack or series of attacks is carried out on our shores. Until then, it's hand-wringing and avoiding the issue as normal for our weakling political leadership.
I thought hand-wringing and avoiding the issue was what happened after we decided to do something?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 09:51:15
Subject: Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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Jihadin wrote:So if there's some "confusion" over the span of time the Marines hit the beach up to when we pulled out let me know. I point you in the direction to help clarify US Military involvement in Mogadishu. Which lead up to US Service members refusing to serve under UN command and control.....I digress..It was an interesting time to be in the US Military during the 90's
I don't think there is any confusion about that, US military involvement began with UNITAF in late '92.
UNITAF was a success, so kudos to the military for doing a good job. But US military action under UNISOM II, specifically Gothic Serpent, left something to be desired.
Experiment 626 wrote:
Nothing will change until a truly catastrophic attack or series of attacks is carried out on our shores. Until then, it's hand-wringing and avoiding the issue as normal for our weakling political leadership.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are referring only to Canada. Because otherwise you would have to ignore 9/11 and the two wars the US, and its allies, waged in the aftermath.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 15:23:37
Subject: Re:Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Gothic Serpent phase happen after we been there for awhile. Did you know a certain Warlord son was in the USMC who's MEU hit the beach? Served as a Translator for Restore Hope?
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Restore Hope was the name of the Humanitarian Operation when we went in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 18:52:52
Subject: Re:Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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Jihadin wrote:Gothic Serpent phase happen after we been there for awhile. Did you know a certain Warlord son was in the USMC who's MEU hit the beach? Served as a Translator for Restore Hope?
Yeah, Hussein Aidid. He has actually been a good friend to the US.
Jihadin wrote:
Restore Hope was the name of the Humanitarian Operation when we went in.
That was the name for the US operation, but Unified Task Force (UNITAF) was the name of the UN operation under which Restore Hope was enacted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 19:54:58
Subject: Re:Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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dogma wrote: Jihadin wrote:Gothic Serpent phase happen after we been there for awhile. Did you know a certain Warlord son was in the USMC who's MEU hit the beach? Served as a Translator for Restore Hope?
Yeah, Hussein Aidid. He has actually been a good friend to the US.
Jihadin wrote:
Restore Hope was the name of the Humanitarian Operation when we went in.
That was the name for the US operation, but Unified Task Force (UNITAF) was the name of the UN operation under which Restore Hope was enacted.
What happen to implement Gothic Serpent. What incidents took place that triggered Task Force Ranger. One Command (UNITAF) that had two Operations operating at the same time. Both US.
10th Mountain was there for in support of the UN
Task Force Ranger was there to conduct combat operation
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 20:16:10
Subject: Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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djones520 wrote:Somalia was a political failure, not a military.
We achieved our objective in the Battle of Mogadishu, and inflicted huge losses on a numerically superior force. Then the politicians had to get weak kneed, pulled the plug, and that ended up spiralling the whole thing down the drain.
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We slaughtered a militia but achieved absolutely nothing. Adid was not captured. The killing never stopped.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 17:50:53
Subject: Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto
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Frazzled wrote: djones520 wrote:Somalia was a political failure, not a military.
We achieved our objective in the Battle of Mogadishu, and inflicted huge losses on a numerically superior force. Then the politicians had to get weak kneed, pulled the plug, and that ended up spiralling the whole thing down the drain.
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We slaughtered a militia but achieved absolutely nothing. Adid was not captured. The killing never stopped.
There was still a good chance given additional time that Task Force Ranger could have gotten Adid. That last raid did yield high value prisoners, who could've been broken for information.
However, with the new incoming administration wanting to essentially end all these 'overseas adventures', they used the casualties from the Battle of Mogadishu as a convenient scapegoat to basically chicken out and call it quits.
Granted, it's doubtful that the killing will ever stop across most of Africa sadly... Too much religious BS and deep seated tribal hatreds that encourage people to act like a bunch of 7th century savages.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 18:02:52
Subject: Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Could have...nah. Regardless, they didn't and their mission had moved from feeding starving people to taking out a clan so they could then theoretically feed starving people.
Its interesting that AQ was actually there already. I guess that whole "trying to feed thousands of your own starving people" is irrelevant to whatever their goal was at the time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 18:21:47
Subject: Re:Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Clinton was already in office when he authorized Task Force Ranger to capture the Warlords.
You have to remember that 10th Mountain was still in country to provide Humanitarian Relief under UNITAF (as Dogman pointed out) "Restore Hope"
Task Force Ranger was under the command of JSOC (Joint Special Operations Center) "Gothic Serpent" that was created from a UN Request(?)
Two operations ongoing in a UN command structure
So when the Rangers/SOAR/Delta became participants of "Shoot an American Day" in Mog. 10th Mountain could not roll out the gate to assist along with Pakistan APC contingent due to UN Command saying "No". Being the units assigned to the UN were Humanitarian in nature.
That started the ball rolling on US service members refusing to serve under UN command.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 19:36:57
Subject: Re:Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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Jihadin wrote:
Task Force Ranger was under the command of JSOC (Joint Special Operations Center) "Gothic Serpent" that was created from a UN Request(?)
Gothic Serpent followed from the elder Bush's pledge to offer assistance to the UN mission in Somalia, it wasn't a request so much as a mutual agreement. Task Force Ranger was Clinton's response to Aidid's attacks on US personnel.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 19:43:11
Subject: Re:Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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dogma wrote: Jihadin wrote:
Task Force Ranger was under the command of JSOC (Joint Special Operations Center) "Gothic Serpent" that was created from a UN Request(?)
Gothic Serpent followed from the elder Bush's pledge to offer assistance to the UN mission in Somalia, it wasn't a request so much as a mutual agreement. Task Force Ranger was Clinton's response to Aidid's attacks on US personnel.
Pakistani troops got opted out. Like a platoon size element if I remember correctly.
Someone from 10th Mountain killed a kid when the kid reached into the HUMVEE to snatch someone Oakly's off.
In retaliation someone (a Somalia) set off a IED on US troops
The Pakistani platoon was the trigger for Gothic Serpent
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 19:44:38
Subject: Re:Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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Jihadin wrote:
The Pakistani platoon was the trigger for Gothic Serpent
Oh, most assuredly. But it was still Clinton carrying on Bush's commitment. I'm not trying to lay blame on Bush, that's just what happened.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 19:51:54
Subject: Re:Boko Haram slaughters 2,000 people.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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When that happen this happen in the same time frame
10th Mountain C&C Hawks failed their JAYCE inspections for having cracks where they were seriously not to suppose to have them. Since 10th Mountain fell under 18th ABN Corp and the 82nd was near Lejuene We did a swap out four for four.. We turned over our C&C birds for theirs. Was a ten day process total. Navy eat damn good. So I turned my bird over 10th Mountain and I got his busted bird in return.
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