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To bad WD is not as good as it was 20 years ago.
I guess we just have to do with this Internet thing untill the hype dies out.

Seriously, we are doing just fine in this postdwarfian age of information overload.

Anything less than an official GW White Dwarf community with active representatives from the company would be underwhelming today.

I could not quite understand why Visions held no interest for me when I had bought WD for years in the past.
I think it is because I can google anything of interest and see MORE inspiring things made from my fellow hobbyists.
In comparison, what I see in Visions is almost depressing: it just seems as blatant marketing not all that well done that they have the audacity to charge money for.

Typically I can separate the artist behavior from the art they produce but GW the company seems to have soured the product for me to some degree with their tactics or methods.
It is sad really because I still keep an eye on them because so much of the product in the past was awesome and I keep hoping they revisit those past methods.

The problem with a WD subscription is that it sounds like a good idea.

But the cost will be well over £100.

Those £2.70's don't seem so much for each individual mag, but try selling 52 in one go and sticker shock will definitely be a thing.

I received the new version of Visions on Friday.

It is an improvement over the small format and is something that I will continue to received for two reasons:

1. Sometimes I just want to look at something that isn't on a screen (Yes I do recognise that you can trawl through the web for better)
2. I still get it for £3.00 an issue. Would I pay the full cover price? Probably not.

Example pages below:



Obviously with the larger format, it may stand out more on the shelf. I only tended to notice it on WH Smiths' shelves as I went for Wargames Illustrated and found it hidden behind other mags.



Golden Demon still remains in the magazine and they do now have a Reader's Army on parade section. The larger format should eliminate the problem illustrated by the example of the Empire weapon earlier in the thread as the photos can be landscaped on the one page.



The gatefold section still remains. I've included the base for my half-built Dunecrawler for scale.


To sum up, it still won't be for everyone. The new version is better but worth the cover price?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Double the price?

Wake up H.B.M.C.

It's great price.
You get price and then add +2.

If base price goes up you still then add +2.

Sooooo they continued by not including the painting tutorials that were present on first editions of visions?

I used to buy visions ( got 10 of them) because when Im painting or on the sofa sometimes I dont want to look at another screen and just chill with a magazine. I stopped because the content even on Visions became less diversified and they stopped including the painting tutorials. I know how to paint but Im clueless about the new paint names of the new GW paints, so those guides helped me identify the colours I wanted.

There is a painting guide section in issue #16, Navarro. In this video review you can see the entire magazine - from W6-Tabletop.at (in german with a lovely austrian accent )

The Paint Splatter part starts here:

https://youtu.be/KL413WB9cSc?t=7m40s

Excellent review! Thank you Sir.

This visions is a big improvement from previous, the bigger size makes all the difference. I like this one. Paint splatter is back again too, nice.

Another thing I noticed is that it had nothing for fantasy or Lotr ?

 NAVARRO wrote:
This visions is a big improvement from previous

No pun intended?

I don't know if I'd call it a "big" improvement, but the larger format definitely makes more sense considering this was intended to be a miniatures showcase and not much else...bigger pages to show off pretty pictures. I'm surprised it took them this long to realize that, actually. After a while I assumed they were just going to stubbornly stick with the tiny mag because they were deathly afraid to admit they had made a mistake.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Another thing I noticed is that it had nothing for fantasy or Lotr ?

Well I imagine you won't be seeing LotR/Hobbit again.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Excellent review! Thank you Sir.

This visions is a big improvement from previous, the bigger size makes all the difference. I like this one. Paint splatter is back again too, nice.

Another thing I noticed is that it had nothing for fantasy or Lotr ?

Generally visions shows off whatever was released in the previous month in the first few pages and then whatever else is included... It's pretty rare that we get LOTR/hobbit models..usually they only show up if somebody did a golden demon presentation. There's a few fantasy models in there. Last month was a solid 40k release though, IIRC, so no big splash of models in the first few pages.

The bigger size really shows that they should have been going with this from the beginning.

Yup, the new A4(-ish) size is a big improvement - I only counted one 'picture cut off in the middle by the magazine spine' ugly. No idea why they ever did the old A5 format, or took 16 issues to work out that it wasn't working.

The new format also condescends to tell you what's inside - gasp! As they've kept the plastic bag wrap to stop you seeing inside, this matters a lot. Personally I'd change the back cover to also show small sample pics of the content, but you can't have everything

I bought the latest visions today and I like it! I would never buy it on the regular, I got this one because I am specifically building a Skitarii army.

The pictures are so big you can see the brushstrokes on the studio models, making it an invaluable painting guide imo

i've only ever got Visions in the iPad version, which has been laid-out beautifully since the first issue...
i was shocked to come back to the US, and see it was so dinky in print...
for a mag that is all about showcasing beautiful pics of painted models, the small format doesn't make any sense...
good to see they have gone bigger...

i'll be sticking with the iPad edition, though...
as a traveler, i love not having a stack of books and mags that is always growing bigger and heavier...
i still love print, but now that i can have all my content on a small device i have more room in my pack for paints and models...

cheers
jah

You're all missing the point with photo that's been featured a few times in this topic. It's obviously a subtle hint at things to come. It's the last fragment of the Warhammer World, see? All the rest has winked out of existence, hence the huge white void. Now the helblaster and it's crew are being sucked into a Chaos rift...

Herzlos wrote:
The thing is though that some people still value edited works and commentary. The internet content is essentially unfiltered and likely 80% crap. It's fine with pictures because it's easy to tell, but for actual editorial stuff there's still a lot of benefit in getting a professional to compile and edit stuff for you into something coherent, high quality and interesting.

The other wargaming magazines manage this, with a good mix of accurate news, event coverage, themed issues and the propogation of ideas, all in a well written and consistent way.

Amen. I'm always checking Eason's in Belfast for the next issue of W:SS, and go straight to the columns by Rick Priestly (who he?) and Richard Clarke. Not to mention the other columns and editorials, potted histories, scenarios, showcases of suitable manufacturers' minis for said histories and scenarios, interviews, reviews, etc. Painting is usually limited to 'here's how the cover diorama was made', usually in a Dallimore/Dean-ish style which makes me yawn, but GW's painting articles bored me too since 'Eavy Metal gave way to Paint Splatter and the base-layer-wash, lather-rinse-repeat thing. To me it's a small sacrifice (as Herzlos says, the internet is fine with pictures, especially pictures intended to make me go 'wow, what a huge overpriced lump of plastic! I must buy a dozen!') compared to some of the insights and possibilities in gaming I get.

I've now had my first encounter with this magazine and with GW's iPad products, bought issue 16 for iPad, downloaded it, and it will only show me the table of contents/splash page with none of the links or sidebar bookmarks being functional.

Yay. Is this normal?

 ph34r wrote:
I've now had my first encounter with this magazine and with GW's iPad products, bought issue 16 for iPad, downloaded it, and it will only show me the table of contents/splash page with none of the links or sidebar bookmarks being functional.

Yay. Is this normal?

not in my experience...
i've never had a problem with any of their iPad edition products, whether a mag, novel, or Codex...
strange...

try deleting it, and reloading...
maybe it had a glitch in the download process...

cheers
jah

 jah-joshua wrote:

 ph34r wrote:
I've now had my first encounter with this magazine and with GW's iPad products, bought issue 16 for iPad, downloaded it, and it will only show me the table of contents/splash page with none of the links or sidebar bookmarks being functional.

Yay. Is this normal?

not in my experience...
i've never had a problem with any of their iPad edition products, whether a mag, novel, or Codex...
strange...

try deleting it, and reloading...
maybe it had a glitch in the download process...

cheers
jah

Tried re-downloading a bunch, did nothing, finally unlocked my iPad and put it into portrait mode, and it worked. Apparently if you are in landscape mode the file just isn't useable at all.

if your screen is not locked in landscape, the page pops up to show you how to orient the iPad...
i never lock my screen, so i didn't even think of that being the issue...

glad you got it sorted...

cheers
jah