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Makumba wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

Makumba wrote:
When was the last time assault marines were actualy used in sm lists, because I had to have been before 5th ed. Only assault marines I did see since I started to play were BA ones, and more offten then not they werent wearin jump packs.

I field mine semi-reguarly. Normally just a 5 man stick with a pair of flamers and a vet sarge. If I’m using pods, odds are they are riding one, but I don’t do that all the time. Still work well with the jump packs.

But you can take bikers with flamers or strenguad with heavy flamers. Plus flamers are rather bad against anything other then IG, and sm don't need flamers to demolish IG armies. What are two flamers going to do something like orks, even if they jump out of a pod. They kill 7 or 8 boys and then get charged by a 60 sized super mob.

Assault marines are a bully unit. You find something weaker then you, and go pound them. If you are tangling with a full green tide (without help) you are doing it wrong. Pathfinders, Dev squads, havoks, minimum objective campers. Those are your targets. Two games ago I took a full 10 man unit. Slammed into a 20 man necron warrior squad. Killed and swept them. Could I have done this with bikes? Maybe. Shooting? nope.

I’ll admit that in general, bikes are better then assault marines. I’m blessed with a local meta that’s not hyper competitive and cut-thought. So I can take units I think are cool, and still do OK with them.

Flamers have some perks. Wall of Death, No Escape. Ignores cover. They cost next to nothing, and I find that it’s worth including them, even though they cost me a CC attack. But generally they kill more then one swing would do anyway. You have the speed with the jump pack to get the template placed right where you want, so can generally catch a good number under the template.

IMHO, YMMV, etc.

I've never really bought into the idea of GW pricing too much. But honestly, I can't see people buying this. 10 assault marines are now worth 20 guardsmen and a chimera if you by the combined set and a normal guard box.
Why GW, why?

It makes even less sense that the price is literally 1$ less here than the Vanguard veteran box with its trove of wargear and shiny bits.

Not for long I'm sure, lol they will all be priced according now