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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/17 17:47:33
Subject: Change to Glancing Hits
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Not as Good as a Minion
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With AP 1 and AP 2 guns, yes, they penetrate the Armour more effectively and more capable of doing severe damage, but by allowing it to modify the VDT Roll, we would need to alter Result #7 properly so that it's not an instant kill except on a Penetrating Hit (which admittedly IS an option in Proposed Rules).
I know this is bringing Real World concepts in to play, but to me, a Glancing Hit is one which hit at an angle which did not allow it's full energy to be expended on the Vehicle. This could be reflected in a ricochet for hard weapons or just a portion of a beam slicing in to the hull, unable to secure any damage to anything significant to the Vehicle's structure.
Of course, in these cases, I would probably change Gauss and similar to being more like Grav, and just doing a Hull Point of Damage on a Penetration Roll of 6 if it doesn't Penetrate. Of course, this would leave a Gauss's Glance with similar effectiveness to a Penetrating Hit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/17 18:30:37
Subject: Change to Glancing Hits
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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I disagree, let 7 kill even on a "new glance"
With glancing to death gone, its that much harder to kill tanks anyway, and low AP guns will really need to step up their game in order to match it. (remember, before the age of glance kills, 6 was enough for insta-kill, and parking lots were viable, and at times dominant.)
And trust me as a mobile artillery soldier-a hit with proper AT weaponry is enough to take out most armored vehicles that are not main battle tanks, even on a less-than-perfect "glancing" hit
And yes, guass will need a change if the glance turns from HP to damage roll.
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can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/17 21:49:39
Subject: Change to Glancing Hits
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The only way I want a vehicle to die due to glances is if you get a pile of immobilized results. The bonus from ap and open topped state they apply to penetrating hits.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/06/17 21:50:24
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/18 00:13:48
Subject: Change to Glancing Hits
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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The additional Hull Points for additional Immobilised results is a bit of an iffy area for me, because if you consider weapons like Grav Cannons w/ Grav-Amps, the additional HP loss is OP. Even with consideration of weapons aside, where's the justification for it?
And Lythrandire BiehrellianMade is right - those bonuses only apply to Penetrating Hits. Plus in the Alternative Proposal, I specifically stated the D6 that you roll is unmodified.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/18 03:27:21
Subject: Change to Glancing Hits
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Not as Good as a Minion
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IllumiNini wrote:The additional Hull Points for additional Immobilised results is a bit of an iffy area for me, because if you consider weapons like Grav Cannons w/ Grav- Amps, the additional HP loss is OP. Even with consideration of weapons aside, where's the justification for it?
And Lythrandire BiehrellianMade is right - those bonuses only apply to Penetrating Hits. Plus in the Alternative Proposal, I specifically stated the D6 that you roll is unmodified.
Yeah, in that case, I definitely would not be apposed to Graviton losing the Hull Point loss.
Realistically, especially if the ruling on multiple Immobilizes on the same Attack being "already" to each other keeps, I would still prefer this to the current setup.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/18 04:30:21
Subject: Change to Glancing Hits
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The first immobilized result wouldn't cause hullpoint loss. So the second would cause two making most vehicles still alive if they take two.
That said, I have a huge chunk of houserules I play under and one is grav only glances on a 6.
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