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2017/11/20 21:42:19
Subject: New fluff: Are Marine Chapters losing their identity?
^I have to say: One of the reasons for my switch to Tyranids is that recently at my local store there was a night when 9 out of 10 players brought power armor of some sort. 7 loyalists and 2 Death Guard. One guy with Tau. Imo not healty for the meta.
Primaris are not appropriate size. You may think every marine is supposed to be 9 ft. tall, but that notion is inaccurate.
Marines are supposed to be 7 or 7 and half feet tall. And that is exactly how tall the Primaris are based on the model size when compared to IG and such.
Gonna need a pic for that, as it doesn't bear out with my impression.
Also, if they're the same size, why can't they travel in a Rhino?
This is a Dark Angels Chaplain:
To be honest I don't know the relation between meters and feets, but normal marines seem pretty big to me.
Haha. I meant the models.
Also, that guy looks about 7". Is that supposed to be a primaris?
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Primaris are not appropriate size. You may think every marine is supposed to be 9 ft. tall, but that notion is inaccurate.
Marines are supposed to be 7 or 7 and half feet tall. And that is exactly how tall the Primaris are based on the model size when compared to IG and such.
Gonna need a pic for that, as it doesn't bear out with my impression.
Also, if they're the same size, why can't they travel in a Rhino?
This is a Dark Angels Chaplain:
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To be honest I don't know the relation between meters and feets, but normal marines seem pretty big to me.
Where's that from?
From the collection of Dark Angels Comics:
-Will of Iron
-Revelations
-Fallen.
This is from the issue 3# of Revelations if I recall correctly.
@Insectium7: No, is a normal Chaplain.
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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
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2017/11/20 22:34:50
Subject: New fluff: Are Marine Chapters losing their identity?
Gonna need a pic for that, as it doesn't bear out with my impression.
I have something better than a pic: math! Primaris marine models tend to be about 38 to 40mm tall, while most GW's normal humans tend to be 30 to 32mm tall. So if we for example assume that a 31mm tall Imperial Guardsman is 180cm (5' 11")tall, then that means that 39mm tall Intercessor is 226cm (7' 5") tall.
Also, if they're the same size, why can't they travel in a Rhino?
Because GW wants you to buy Repulsors. It certainly has nothing to do with size, they can't ride vehicles that can carry terminators either.
Edit: At least we agree on marines being 7ish. The number of times i've seen people aiming for 8-9 for normal marines is wierd.
Xenomancers wrote: I love primaris - old marines are already dead to me. I would love some more options on the characters but I just can't bring myself to play a space marine tike when I can take a primaris intercessor who actually looks imposing and powerful.
Secondis marines can't go fast enough if you ask me.
As far as chapters go. There are only a few I can take seriously. Considering these are supposed to be the imperials elite warriors. I would expect them to all be "chapter compliant" anything else is beyond imagination. Imagine a military force today where every "division" has some unique gimmick about it - it just sounds stupid doesn't it?
I'm not sure I hope this happens but I think it might happen. Guilliman is going to eventually phase out the non compliant chapters. It might make for a good bit of drama and game play as the forces of the imperium eliminate all the non compliant chapters who resist against the imperium and end up slaughtered. Then GW can take space marines in a different direction.
Well, there is no accounting for taste is there?
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2017/11/21 03:39:16
Subject: New fluff: Are Marine Chapters losing their identity?
We don't have numbers, just that they are normally a head taller than normal marines. But just like normal marines height, it will be very inconsistent througt all media.
Where is this 'head taller' from? In any case, that would not make them nine feet tall either, unless they have two feet tall heads...
In the anniversary poster there doesn't seem to be significant size differnce between them, at glance you can't tell which marines are primaris and which are not. I'd say that maybe regular marines are on average seven feet tall while the primaris are seven and half or something like that.
Should I be more impressed with the level of awesomeness in that art, or the fact that they put Crimson Fists on ANYTHING published recently?
Gonna need a pic for that, as it doesn't bear out with my impression.
I have something better than a pic: math! Primaris marine models tend to be about 38 to 40mm tall, while most GW's normal humans tend to be 30 to 32mm tall. So if we for example assume that a 31mm tall Imperial Guardsman is 180cm (5' 11")tall, then that means that 39mm tall Intercessor is 226cm (7' 5") tall.
Also, if they're the same size, why can't they travel in a Rhino?
Because GW wants you to buy Repulsors. It certainly has nothing to do with size, they can't ride vehicles that can carry terminators either.
Edit: At least we agree on marines being 7ish. The number of times i've seen people aiming for 8-9 for normal marines is wierd.
I blame Black Library.
Well if those numbers are accurate that's kind of interesting.
They still look doofy-big to me though. Maybe that's my grognard kicking in. I could argue that many of them aren't standing upright, but A: thats inconsistent, as many GW models are also spread -legged. B: GW scale is inconsistent anyways.
Dunno how I feel about that. Aesthetically it bugs me.
