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Made in at
Not as Good as a Minion





Austria

plastic being softer or harder has nothing to do with quality but it is a decision made

and having a real life model you want o replicate is harder than making something with the very freedom that no one cares if you make a 1:1 replica or not

and thinking you can use any pictures you find to print in a book without paying for them because they are not artwork just tells me you have no clue about copyright law

Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise 
   
Made in gb
Preparing the Invasion of Terra






I wasn't talking about quality I was just correcting your point about the plastic being the same.

With regards to creating a new thing vs a replica, a replica might get panned for not being 100% accurate but there is no idea stage. You don't need to generate ideas and tests for designs and you don't need to worry about IP infringment. If I create Space Warrior models I need to think about where the influences come from and if it comes too close to things like Space Marines, Halo Spartans or the Gears of War soldiers.

If the artist has been dead for 70 years and has no estate tied to their work then it falls under fair use but it is advised that you check each time. I checked before I posted.
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





GW make and sell more minis than anyone else and the amount they make and sell continuously grows (I am led to believe). Doesn’t economics teach us that they more they sell the cheaper they should become over time?

This is why I genuinely believe GW do so much limited stock to keep the impression that supply is lower than demand justifying high prices.

Indomitus could have been for everyone but they chose to limit it
   
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Austria

standard theory of economics does not work for luxury products
actually for luxury, the more you sell the more expensive it need to be to stay luxury and exclusive

 Gert wrote:
I wasn't talking about quality I was just correcting your point about the plastic being the same.

you were talking about GW having superior material (because of different hardness) hence they are more expensive

which is not true, the plastic is the same, different hardness is a choice not a sign of superior or inferior material

the price for the plastic has nothing to do with the higher price

You don't need to generate ideas and tests for designs and you don't need to worry about IP infringment

you still have to generate ides and make tests

there is no scanner available were you just drive to a museum, scan the tank and print a model that works for any scale

it is not even possible to take a 28mm model and just re-scale it and make a 15mm model from it
you need to re-design it from scratch with new ideas how to do things and test them

I don't know if you have ever sculpted or designed something, but it reads more like you are searching for excuses why GW must be more expensive other than "to want to have a bigger margin and people are willing to pay the price"

were the others need to be cheaper because there is much more competition out there

because there is no IP you need to defend, you are not able to ask for GW prices, because if you are too expensive someone else will do cheaper ones

the only reason why GW is so much more epxensive is because of their closed envoirnment of exclusive models+games no one else can do and people are willing to pay the high price to get into it

there is no hidden reason of superior material, more expensive designer etc.

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Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Are GW products luxury products? they aren’t Ferrari’s but they aren’t bread and milk.
   
Made in pl
Fixture of Dakka




Well that depends on the person and local income. I Bahrain a cost of an avarge w40k is laughably low. Trying to play it in Bangladesh would clearly place it in the luxury area.

I think that from older threads, I remember, my hobby budget of 2 months is equal to what people seem to be spending weekly on w40k, on avarge.

If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. 
   
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Not as Good as a Minion





Austria

mrFickle wrote:
Are GW products luxury products? they aren’t Ferrari’s but they aren’t bread and milk.

GW executives once said, they want to be what Porsche is for cars, so they are aiming for the "luxury brand" among toy soldiers

Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise 
   
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UK

 kodos wrote:
mrFickle wrote:
Are GW products luxury products? they aren’t Ferrari’s but they aren’t bread and milk.

GW executives once said, they want to be what Porsche is for cars, so they are aiming for the "luxury brand" among toy soldiers


Yeah but a Rolex has resale value, you buy a Porsche it's value will increase.

GW makes mass produced toy soldiers, they Arnt hand made by artisans but spin moulded plastic.

The way you grab hobbyists is when their young, but to do that it has to be affordable for kids and students.

By pricing everyone but fully employed people out you're shooting yourself in the foot.
   
Made in at
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Austria

you can sell GW models you bought 10 years ago for 50-70% MSRP and make profit, OOP GW models go for 150-200%

GW does not want to grow the wargaming community, they want to be the premium brand that everyone wants but not all can afford so that it is a privilege to play their games

with this they make sure that people stick with their games no matter how bad they are or what GW is doing as a company
because of the high buy-in and the high cost to stay, you make sure that people are not giving up fast because of their big investment

cheaper games die much more faster if small mistakes are made, simply because nothing of value is lost if you shelf your 50€ investment after 5 games, were putting a 1000€ investment on the shelf because GW messed up the new Codex hurts and you are much more likely to still play games with it

Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise 
   
 
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