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Simond's lance is a regular steel pointed cavalry lance
rules from here: http://gagetowngaming.wikidot.com/only-war-weapons#toc1
which puts it at a 1D10 (rending type damage for criticals) Proven2(meaning it will do a minimum of 2 damage) unbalanced (-10 for parry)

OK, I read about it. It's one handed, so feel free to describe Simond using his shield.

Thought about it for Tambo, as I often model my dudes with spears, but it gets to much equipment fast

@ Easy E: I might have missed it, but could you Post a summary of your stats, skills and traits so that I can roll for you?

@ Bob: are you in the Chimera or on foot?

In the Chimera after shooting the Overwatch shots, I was waiting for a write before adding my part.

Ok, so I should set the next post, or do you want to add something?

Nothing on my end, and I'll be away for most of the week-end, so don't wait up. If there's combat, for, now, at least, Poncho would stick to aimed single shots, no telling when's the next resupply.

 Pyroalchi wrote:
@ Easy E: I might have missed it, but could you Post a summary of your stats, skills and traits so that I can roll for you?

I added to my first post of the Against the Savages Thread in spoiler tags.

Okay so how tough are these orks because I just landed a solid hit on the Runtherd with that sharp pointy stick!
There does not seem to be any rules on the matter, so I have arbitrarily decided that if it does more than 5 damage it is a solid hit that is being lodged in the foe's body. It just makes sense to me.

I just realised that I have not been using my talent: 'furious assault' which gives me another attack on a successful WS test.
Don't mind me over here lol.

Very tough. Not a lot of armor by high toughness and unnatural bonus, plus they get tedious to kill with the crit chart, to the point where our DM gave up on the crit chart for Boyz, we'd kill them when they hit 0 wounds.

Well I just checked and that runtherd is at -2 wounds then. Before we consider armour and toughnes...

I guess he could be considered 'furiously assaulted'

So here is how it goes as far as I gathered it:

Step 1: you roll your damage. If it is a 10, you get "righteos fury" (more on that later)
Step 2: the enemy substracts his armor and toughness
Step 3: what is left is reduced from his wounds, if he reaches 0 wounds, every excess damage and every following hit does critical damage. Critical damage does effects as listed on page 259+ in the core rule book

Now comes the catch: Righteous fury:
Step 4: if you rolled a 10, for damage you roll another 10 for righteos fury. This second d10 is for critical damage, regardless of the enemy still having wounds left or not (at least that is how I understood it).



So lets get to that runtherd: he has 15 wounds, Flak Armor (2) and total Tougnness Bonus (7). So he unfortunatly reduces incomming damage by 9.
So your 10 damage unfortunatly are reduced to 1 wound and he has 14 left. BUT: here comes your righteous fury which means I consult the critical damage (Rending) chart for body (rolled a 61 for the hit zone) at point 7:

The attack cuts open the target’s abdomen. The target can either choose to use one arm to hold his guts in (until
a medic can bind them in place with a successful Medicae Test), or fight on regardless and risk a 20% chance
each Round that his middle splits open, spilling his intestines all over the ground, causing an additional 2d10
Damage. In either case, the target suffers 1d5 permanent Toughness Damage and is now suffering Blood Loss.

So now the Runtherd has to do an opposed strength test (he has 46) vs. the horse (51) I rolled:12 vs 6, that means he is knocked prone.




Interesting result, and kind of fitting. So the Runtherd is such a big fellow, that technically, Simonds tiny lance should not kill him that fast (technically you can only do damage on a 10 to him). But Simond hit him perfectly, meaning that while his lance might have made just a tiny cut compared to his overall posture, it cut right between some big muscles along a long line, completely tearing open his belly and also knocked him right from his feet. Pretty awesome result and I have to think about what that does to the moral of his Grots. Nothing good I guess.



Edit: note that this means regardless on how well armored and tough your opponents are and how meagre your weapon: as long as the attack can trigger righteous fury there is at least a small chance to stack a critical damage result on the enemy. So even if you stand against a Swarm Lord with a knife, there is a minimal chance to stick it in his eye

The cavalry lance is proven 3 though. So any damage delivered below 3 counts as 3 as well.

Should have probably went for a hunting lance with a poisoned head. That would have added firstly 'poison' and bizarrely 'razor sharp'. I guess Simond is a slacker so the process of putting poison on the spearhead before every battle and actually keeping the thing sharp might not have fully been in character.

@ Proven: As far as I understand it that mean that dice rolls below three are counted as three. So unfortunatly that is done before the armor and toughness is applied.

Don't worry, we'll get you some special tips for the lance later. Maybe even a poison dispenser.

On topic of poisons: has anybody stumbled upon the page in the books how these are handled? I found some mentions like tox dispenser, poison lance etc, but no list of poisons. So is this treated abstractly and each just has a "poison value" without any further details?


@Easy E: you can decided if you want the Chimera on top of the heap firing down or if it should drive right in the middle of the fight

@Proven: Oh, ok cheers, makes more sense.

I think Simond will be commanding Balwin to sharpen that lance tip till he can shave with it if they survives this encounter at the very least LOL.

Yeah the book is a bit long and hard to navigate, I am currently using it and Gagetown Gaming's site which is much more slimmed down.

Here is the description for the toxins: Anyone that takes Damage from a Toxic weapon, after reduction for Armour and Toughness Bonus, must make a Toughness Test with a penalty equal to 10 times the number in parentheses (X) or suffer an additional 1d10 points of Damage (of the same type as the weapon which inflicted the hit) not reduced by Armour or Toughness. For example, a weapon with Toxic (4) would impose a –40 on Toughness Tests.

Yeah, its a lot of pages. But with asking around we should find most stuff we need and for the rest we will use good old handwaveium if we aren't sure with something.

@Poisons: I somehow expected there to be a section explaining how to get poisons/hallucinogens. Prices, difficulties to find them etc. But when in doubt I assume the chemyst profession of Teodore should help us out...

Toxins against orks, what are we dark eldar? Let's get on with a proper krumping of our foes now. LOL!

I was planning to see what Tambo digs up.

And presumably milks for its venom.

I also thought about him hunting for some poisonous frogs or so. Definitly something he will ask the locals about.

And don't worry Dekskull, there will be enough krumping going on. But we will also be brutally cunning...

Short headsup: what is everyones Regiments favourite basic and heavy weapon? Just considering what the guys in the shuttle likely have at hand.

@ Oldmate: can you tell me again where Simond and Balwin are heading too? I though towards the three Boyz trying to storm the ramp?
@ Easy E: so suppression fire with the Multilaser. Sounds doable, as it has an effect regardles of you succeeding on your Ballistic skill roll, so even without Training at heavy weapons it should work.

@ Dekskull & Bob: if you decide to stay in the Chimera you should have small viewports at the lasgun array to look outside. There is also a hatch on the top of the troops compartment which you could technically open to look out and fire, if you prefer your own weapons.

Poncho will use the hatch, yeah.

For the 5th Krieg regiment, their weapons are Autocannons and Melta Guns

Yup- Suppression fire for me, not really trying to kill anyone, just give time for the Guard to come out.

4th St. Paulus Arctic Wolves prefer the Melta Gun to bust the bunkers open, and Heavy Flamers to clear them out.

Yeah Simond recognises he probably does not at this point want to fight an Ork who is fully aware of his presence. So he's going yo do a ride past on those 3 orks and hurl a bomb at them. Then hopefully the runt herd will be distracted by the approaching chimera. He intends then to set about the beast with his chainsword if it is still standing.

Elendine Tithe's favorite weapons are flamer and chainsword.

Is the Chimera in a place to allow us to spot either the flamer-wielding Ork, or the Runtherd?

You should definitly see the runtherd lying in the ground. The flamer dude is unfortunatly almost invisible still. Unless you look out of a lasgun array viewport and succeed with awareness-10, than you can catch a glimpse. But until you really look out, you will likely not see that he carries a burna

Edit: if Njals checks the turret periscopes he might also catch that glimpse

@ Poncho:
I meant the hatch on top of the passanger compartment between the lasgun arrays:

The turret is likely too cramped to look out with Njal inside.

@ Teodore: even though Poncho closes the hatch, Wyone still gets a bit burned (or badly, if you choose to not pull her down). But less severe. Nothing that won't heal with time.

Oops. The only Chimera I own is heavily modified, I forgot about that hatch, will edit later, as I am not home

@ Easy E: just to make sure: you stop supressing the Grots and turn the turret towards where the flames came from, right?

Edit: so the current situation should be something like that: (dead grots removed for clarity)

Okay so Simond is going to attempt a curving pass and will hurl the grenade at the two orks on the ramp.

OK... that didn't went too well. But fair is fair, would be boring if everything went all to plan all the time.


Edit: messed up the frag grenade damage from Simond. I rolled 10 and 8 and thought like with the skill rolls that would be 08 damage. It's 18 of course and another Rigtheous Fury result on top of it. So the second ork is indeed wounded pretty severely and now has only one leg left.