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Thanks I thought I read that somewhere. Guess all I need to survey for are two zombie sprues and a forge guard faction starter then.

 GrimDork wrote:
My marauder upgrade pack has the right number of components but the arm to hold the HMG is missing and there's an extra claw arm. Not sure I'm too fussed, can likely use one of the extra arms created by this set to fill in, and then I've got an extra claw!

Yeah, about that Marauder upgrade pack . . . how is it? Any good?

Interesting thing about those Marauders and conversions. Generally speaking, Mantic's (Deadzone) Marauders are smaller than GW Orks. However, while GW Ork heads are much bigger than Marauder heads, GW Ork arms tend to be skinnier. (Check out the arms on Mantic's knife-fighting Marauder, now compare them to the average GW Ork arm.)

"One item that has been brought to our attention as missing is the Inferno Drill and Brokkr Engineer from the Forge Father Booster Bundle. Unfortunately this item was indeed mis-packed. Anyone who is owed one will receive it as part of their final shipment. Please do not fill out the missing bits form if you've not received one of these in your Booster Bundle."

So the drill will be sorted, yay!

@Vermonter
The casting quality seems good enough, and I like the variation of the heads. Sizing seems right.

 Gallahad wrote:
$20 for six for a sprue sans options is pretty steep.

There have been several people who have said that the Forge Guard and Peacekeepers sprues do not have options. However, that is not true.

As previously reported:

A sprue of five Enforcer Peacekeepers includes: (listing based on message on Mantic Facebook 9/25/2014):
5 x Peacekeeper (different poses/legs) with extra heads
1 x Wrist Blade Arm (left)
5 x Rifle Arms (right)
5 x Energy Gauntlet Arms (left)
5 x Defender Shields
1 x Incinerator arm (right)
1 x Burst Laser arm (right)

As for the Forge Guard: (listing based on previously shown sprue layout, Deadzone Kickstarter Update #152, 7/16/2014):
5 x Forge Guard (different bodies, left & right legs, upper torsos with heads)
1 x Forge Father Huscarl in Forge Guard Armor
6 x Arms with Heat Hammers (left)
8 x Ranged Weapon Arms (right)
6 x Hailstorm Rifle
1 x Heat Cannon
1 x Autocannon
1 x Missile Launcher

I know the power mauls got nixed from the peacekeeper sprues, but I wonder what happened with those neat not-lighting not-claws they had?

 GrimDork wrote:
I know the power mauls got nixed from the peacekeeper sprues, but I wonder what happened with those neat not-lighting not-claws they had?

Would that be the wrist blade mentioned?

Nah they had honest-go-goodness not-lightning-claws. I'll see if I can find a picture. And it wasn't one, i think it was meant to be the CC option. Could have been dropped too...


These.

I would think they might be a half-sprue upgrade for DZ1.5/WP0.5

Or they just dropped them from the fluff/models because, honestly, as much as I love LC and TH/SS terminators, it's a ridiculous concept

They were dropped, but I can't recall why. Might be in favour of the shields.

I liked having extra close combat options, but then again, that's probably just my fantasy/ melee bias showing.

I totally would have had all my peacekeepers hand to hand focused if they'd kept those.

'Got my missing parts survey has been completed' e-mail. Of course, now I'm finding more stuff as I assemble, but that's different. I may just save those for post Wave 3.

Peacekeepers not having the claws makes Srg howlet more special too I suppose.

Not sure I'd take a peacekeeper with brawler and no ranged weapon over the standard power clove and dominator rifle anyway.

As a side note... Worst model to assemble so far? Nyx? the Plague merc with the glaive. Ugh. The glaive is waaaay too thin and bends like crazy and she had some pretty impressive metal flash.

Speaking of bulk deals the Zombies are on preorder

75 for $79.99/£49.99/€59.95 (limited offer ends 31st October)


http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/pre-order/deadzone/product/plague-zombie-mega-deal-75-figures.html

20 are $24.99/£14.99/€17.99

http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/pre-order/deadzone/product/plague-zombies-20-figures.html

Individual sprues are $9.99/£4.99/€6.50

http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/pre-order/deadzone/product/sci-fi-zombie-sprue-5-figures.html

I can see why they waited until the third wave survey closed before putting them up the 80 for $45 was a great deal.

The individual zombie sprue price also gives a good indicator that an individual sprue of Forge Guard at $20 is a bit high.

 CptJake wrote:
The individual zombie sprue price also gives a good indicator that an individual sprue of Forge Guard at $20 is a bit high.

Heh. I thought we moved past that.

I've got some of those zombies on my DBX pledge. I'm tempted to order some now, but should probably just hold off until I get the ones from my pledge. They seem pretty reasonably priced as well.

I almost got a second bundle but it seemed overkill.

 CptJake wrote:
The individual zombie sprue price also gives a good indicator that an individual sprue of Forge Guard at $20 is a bit high.

Unless you consider that the Forge Guard come on two zombie-sized sprues. As per this update (and me actually getting a look at an unfinished run).

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/deadzone-the-sci-fi-miniatures-board-game/posts/911998

Yeah the zombie sprues aren't very big, 5.5x7" roughly.

I don't think I'd wanna pay $10 for 5 of them, though they are quite nice.

75 for 80 bucks though is solid even if it's roughly half the deal we got as backers. Even the 20 for $25 isn't too bad, any hard plastic figures for a dollar a model (or slightly more) seems good. Especially when/if these show up at my favorite 3rd party r/etailer.

I guess we'll see on the other stuff, $20 msrp for peacekeepers is probably fine to me, especially when I get them for $16 a miniature market. Enforcers hopefully are cheaper though. Maybe 10 for $25? 10 for 20 is more what I was hoping for but I doubt it now. Still... figuring in for the bundle price they could still do pretty well.

I haven't seen it mentioned here, but the Mars Attacks figures, while actually pretty good in my opinion, are smaller than Mantic minis from other ranges.

That's fine for Mars Attacks, which is self-contained anyway, and it's even fine for me using the Martians in Deadzone crossover games, because who's to say what the proper size of a Martian relative to a Rebs human is anyway?

But Dreadball has an established scale in place already, and DBX should, in my opinion, maintain it since the two are cross-compatible. Brokkrs shouldn't look tiny relative to the Midgard Delvers, etc.

So I emailed Mantic about it, and received this response from Chris.

"We are working on making sure the scale is the same. I think it's more a case that the sculpts for Mars Attacks are indeed slighter, as we've used a different sculptor on the range than we do normally."

Just thought I'd pass that along, in case anyone else cares.

I'll give you that some of the female heroes are smaller...

But the corporation marines seem pretty close to the human soldiers. If there are any models folks are specifically concerned about I have most of what they make for DZ and the box game of MA, no DB though, I could take some photos as requested.

Just read through the escalation book (backers should have a link to it for wargamevault), and the scenarios all sound pretty fun They added some more complicated rules, without them being too complicated imo.

 pretre wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
The individual zombie sprue price also gives a good indicator that an individual sprue of Forge Guard at $20 is a bit high.

Heh. I thought we moved past that.

The Forge Guard sprue also looks to be at least twice the size /shrug

The Martians in Mars attacks are smaller than humans in general I think

They're thinner, but they're an entirely different race and not out of scale just by being smaller than humans.

I mean some of the girls are a bit smaler:


But then some people are.


*also as a side note, I'm not trying to argue with anyone here other than to mildly disagree with the humans being smaller in general.

 judgedoug wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:
$20 for six for a sprue sans options is pretty steep.

There have been several people who have said that the Forge Guard and Peacekeepers sprues do not have options. However, that is not true.

As previously reported:

A sprue of five Enforcer Peacekeepers includes: (listing based on message on Mantic Facebook 9/25/2014):
5 x Peacekeeper (different poses/legs) with extra heads
1 x Wrist Blade Arm (left)
5 x Rifle Arms (right)
5 x Energy Gauntlet Arms (left)
5 x Defender Shields
1 x Incinerator arm (right)
1 x Burst Laser arm (right)

As for the Forge Guard: (listing based on previously shown sprue layout, Deadzone Kickstarter Update #152, 7/16/2014):
5 x Forge Guard (different bodies, left & right legs, upper torsos with heads)
1 x Forge Father Huscarl in Forge Guard Armor
6 x Arms with Heat Hammers (left)
8 x Ranged Weapon Arms (right)
6 x Hailstorm Rifle
1 x Heat Cannon
1 x Autocannon
1 x Missile Launcher

Thanks for the heads up, my mistake. I thought it was just one sprue, not two. Still not worth $20 for me, but at least you get some left over guns and stuff.

Does anyone happen to know (or have they even said) when the Contagion book is supposed to hit retail? I would love a copy of A.I. rules.

This month. There should also be a nice Boxset with zombies, defence lines, the deck and the book.

I had another look at my US soldiers and Mantic Corp troopers. The difference is indeed pretty slight, and I think Chris! was correct - most of the difference is down to different sculptural styles rather than scale. The Corp Troopers look a bit (a bit) more heroic scaled next to the CGI, realistically proportioned US troopers, which I think is more down to Remy's style than size differences. But they do look good together, regardless.

That said, I'd never field both of them as part of the same unit; only a delusional madman would attempt that, bringing shame and disgrace on his family name for generations to come.

(Actually I'll be quite interested to see how your work on integrating the two progresses, GrimDork.)

I had looked at the Corp soldier / trooper duo prior to my original post, and found the difference larger at the time. I suppose that's what second looks are for.

Still, it's nice to know Mantic care about having some scale continuity between DB and DBX.

I figure the human soldiers are the budget meatshields, given only solid projectile weapons and discount body armor. Just because everyone compares them to guardsmen certainly doesn't mean corporation troops are just as 'bad'. I think they're actually very hightech and disciplined, so a gruntier class of soldier makes sense to me

Looking forward to getting those MA tiger corps dudes, they're practically a deadzone team all on their own