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Hey guys. This post weaves it's way a bit between conversion and wargear discussion, so please bear with it.

I just managed to obtain one of the limited edition Inquisitors - he's 'Gideon Lorr', according to the internet, but basically he's a slightly different version of one of the current witchhunter models. Here's a picture of him, so you know what I'm working from:



Please note that the image above is simply to show those unfamiliar with the model what a painted version of it looks like. This is not my model - this was one found on CoolMiniOrNot, and painted by an artist named Perfectus Art Studio on CMON.

Now, I went ahead and bought one of these models for a few reasons. Number one is that I really like the model - it has some subtle differences from the current witchhunter one on details such as the hat, chest armor, and weaponry. I also really liked the plasma pistol he was carrying - that whole 'gunslinger' kind of thing appealed to me.

I don't, however, like the other hand he has. The 'pointing' looks a little silly to me, as his finger is grotesquely longer than it should be, and it's a perfectly good waste of a weapon-holding hand.

With that said, I'm still getting on my feet with a daemonhunter army, and I plan on using this fellow as an Inquisitor Lord in said army. I want to replace that 'pointing' hand with another, more useful weapon, but I'm perplexed as to what my best options are in terms of WYSIWYG rules.

A friend of mine who plays Grey Knights said that a psycannon would be a good idea for the offhand. I do, however, have a left-handed plasma pistol that I aquired from a space marine rune priest.. the temptation is there to add it for the sake of having a dual-weilding badass, but I'm unsure as to if that's even a good idea in terms of actual loadout, and I want my daemonhunters & inquisition to be a fairly competetive army. Here's a picture of the plasma pistol I've got:



So, I could put that on the offhand and call it a day, and let him run around with a pair of plasma pistols. It's marginally appealling, I'll admit it. However, I'm not so sure that for a weapons loadout that's such a good idea.

I do really want to maintain the 'gunslinger' sort of appearance of the model, but the temptation for versatility also has me considering to use Cortez's hammer.



This would let me play the model with either a daemonhammer, thunder hammer, power weapon, or just vanilla CC weapon.. but my retinue and overall idea for this squad is a bit more shooting-oriented, as they're really fairly weak in close combat and I'd rather be assaulting with Grey Knights. So while that adds a bit of weapon versatility in terms of WYSIWYG, I'm not so sure that's even an effective option... Plus, thunder/daemonhammers are expensive!

I've also been considering the psycannon idea my friend recommended. While it is also very expensive, I've been told that it's a really good weapon option for the inquisitor, and since he's going to be accompanied by some Seers in his retinue it he can make use of improved BS, so shooting-oriented is definitely a plus. However, the problem is that if I add a psycannon, I'd want it to be something more of a handheld pistol type weapon again just to mesh with the gunslinger approach I have on him - this'd seem to work fine with the DH codex, as it simply describes the psycannons as a form of bolter with blessed ammo. However, the problem them becomes representing the weapon in a sort of consolidated pistol form, which I'm having trouble with.

A while back, I got a weapons sprue from hasslefree miniatures of some odd guns that I was thinking might be usable:



I was leaning more towards the one on the far right end, as the psycannon's supposedly a two-handed weapon (which makes consolidating it into a pistol fairly difficult, but I still would like to do it) but even that's a little unweildly and I'm not sure if it'd be such a good idea.

In scale comparison with the earlier plasma pistol:





Sorry for the fuzzy photos, I had to snap them fast as my camera's battery is on it's way out.

In any event, it's doable, I think, to add a psycannon in with one of the weapons from that sprue.. but I'm not sure if that's a good wargear weapon option, as I'm fairly new to the whole inquisition. I've also considered arming him with the other plasma pistol and trying to model a psycannon slung over his back, but I'm not so sold on that idea as I don't want to cover up all of the nice details on this model's back with a weapon simply for WYSIWYG purposes unless it's absolutely necessary. With all that said, I'd love for some advice, feedback, or ideas on this topic.

To be honest, one plasma pistol alone is a risk. What you probably should do, depending on what Inquisition faction he is(Daemonhunters or Witchhunters), is arm him with a power weapon in the other hand. Or you could get your hands on the Daemonhunters model #3 and chop off his bolter arm to use as a bolter/psycannon combi-weapon. Otherwise, it just isn't worth using two ranged weapons in my opinon. More of a Guard player so I rely on mass numbers of low weapons...not crazed officers

Daemon hammer for sure!

just my $.02, but i wouldn't cut up the LE model.

i'd use the more common WH model.

The LE isn't really all that hard to get. There's 3-4 on ebay at this very moment, and I managed to get him for around $15 dollars, so I'm more than happy to cut him up to get a little more use out of him. He's different in a number of ways to the common WH model - smaller hat, different iconography, different armor. The only thing that's really identical are the legs and cloak. I'd prefer to have a more unique model at that point than other people that just buy their witchhunter & retinue boxed set.

However, I'm honestly leaning towards the thought that the weapon I was leaning towards to use as a psycannon is a bit large. I'm having trouble sorting out what exactly can stand in for a pistol-version of a psycannon - I found a conversion on the oz.games-workshop site for one, but it was basically a poorly greenstuffed bolter, which I'm not all that fond of. I've definitely decided he needs another ranged weapon, though - he's just too weak in close combat to justify an assault weapon of any kind. That's more for a grey knight hero.

Anyhow, any recommendations or ideas would be much appreciated.

well keep this in mind...

"Codex DH
Psycannon:psycannon are based on bolt weapons, replacing the bolt

warheads with ritually inscribed silver tips,...."

so who's to say that it doesn't look like a bolter w/ a scope.

or use the I.G. GL round magazine on a bolter.

the possibilities are endless.

If yer just gunna beef up a bolter, then what I have been doin in the past for my Death Watch might work. I took a hand full of the Hurricane bolters off of the Cuisader and chopped them into individual bolters and added ammo drums. They are beafy and different. That might work. But seriously, why buy a second range weapon when you can only use one anyway? Options are grand, but pricey. That is a pretty snazzy Plasma Pistol, no need to ruin him by knockin it off. W/ the Daemon Hammer you strike at init when ya throw down with Daemons, adn you are at double strength(6), so he really is not such a bad chap in hand to hand. Besides, if you are gunna play against chaos or anybody that the previously mentioned Psi-Cannon could hurt, then you are more than likely going to be in hand to hand a turn or so after you fired, so you may as well have something to defend yourself with against them bruisers.

I wonder, is there any chance I could see a picture of the conversions you're talking about for your Death Watch? I'm not entirely sure I know what that would look like.

The plasma pistol is nice, please don't get me wrong. However, seeing as the psycannon's an all-or-nothing option and basically makes the plasma pistol worthless, I picture myself just generally leaving it on the model but not paying the points to take it so that I can use the psycannon instead. Really, what I intend on doing is sticking these guys behind a screen of Grey Knights and advancing them with the GK's as an assault buffer of sorts while the retinue causes all sorts of hell. I generally figure if the inquisitor gets stuck in close combat, he's going to die anyway, so there's no sense in really wasting that many points on a close combat weapon for him. Toughness 3 can only take so much, you know?

With that said, I don't want to add a daemonhammer because it ruins the gunslinger aspect. Really, I'm trying to add an additional weapon that's as streamlined as the plasma pistol he's carrying that wouldn't disrupt the mentality that he can, in fact, holster these things somewhere. I get the impression that working from a bolter base might bottleneck me a bit in terms of what I could actually call the weapon, you know what I mean? Not that I know what a hellpistol looks like, or a needle pistol for that matter, but with WYSIWYG rules in this particular case I just want something that looks unique, a bit individualized, and has the ability to be played as a psycannon with the options of standing in for alternate weaponry.

I'm very picky, I guess.

To steal Lt. Walke's idea off the WIP forum: What about another plasma pistol? A matching pair even (either by buying another Inquisitor or doing a casting of the one in his hand). Perhaps with a little conversion work to reduce their plasma pistoly-ness, like covering the plasma coils or adding small drum clips. I don't know how anal retentive your gaming group is, but so long as you let them know ahead of time that the two pistols "count as" a psycannon, I doubt they will mind.

I've just been told that the inquisitor is able to have one of the characters in his retinue carry weapons for his own use.. is this true? If it is, it helps make this a whole lot easier - I could just modify the bolter-lugging cherub model on it's own base to represent the particular weapon he is taking at the moment, and equip his actual model with the dual plasma pistols. I'm told this is on page 16 in the daemonhunter codex, near the start of the armory page, but I'm missing that page out of my codex (got torn out by the previous owner. -_-) Can anyone confirm that this method works? Because if so, it'd be cake to model him how I like and just add a cherub to the retinue with whatever weapon the inquisitor'll be using.

Yup. It says: "All wargear and weapons must be represented on the model. However, unlike with normal visual representation, it is permitted for an Inquisitor or Inquistor Lord's henchman to carry items of wargear for him; to all intents and purposes it is still part of the Inquisitor's wargear and is not destroyed if that Henchman is removed as a casualty. Normal limits on weapons carried must still be obeyed."