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Mounted Kroot Tracker

This is a callout to all Space Marine players who think they're the best!

Page 3 of the 40K rulebook lists 'a typical space marine army'.  This typical army is a tactical nightmare.  If you have the models, build this army and play a single Gamma Cleanse mission.  Reply to this message with the victory point differential of the game played.  Whoever has the highest victory point differential will be (in my eyes) the greatest Space Marine general on Dakka.  The challenge will last for exactly one week after this initial post (Ending August 16, 10 PM Eastern Time).  You must build your army WYSIWYG from the picture.

Note that the terminator squad has a heavy flamer.

Note that the tactical squads have a missile launcher and flamer in one squad and only bolters in the other.

I'd be interested to see the results.

- Oaka

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Dakka Veteran

Orlando, Florida

I added up the army and discovered 2 things.
1. Its not legal, look at the command squad, theres a techmarine in there. Simple fix, the techmarine is elite and the command squad gets an extra bolter guy.
2.Its 1452 with every wysiwig with the extra bolter guy.

So you could eiter have people play 50 points down, or you could list what wargear to give people.
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Mounted Kroot Tracker


Well, I think a good option would be to allow wargear suited to taste to bring it up to 1500.  There are plenty of different avenues open for ~50 points of wargear, and that may add that little aspect of choice that is sorely needed in a list like that.  Anyway, we've got a game scheduled now for Sunday and my friend will use this list against my Kroot, I'll let him know what the points cost is, thanks for figuring that out.

- Oaka

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Madrak Ironhide

From an objective point of you, you should post wargear

Get your own Dakka Code!

"...he could never understand the sense of a contest in which the two adversaries agreed upon the rules." Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude 
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Regular Dakkanaut

"GW typical" and what is typically fielded, is very seldom the same thing.

All problems can be solved with proper use of a high powered rifle and a water tower 
Made in ch
Dakka Veteran

Planet of Dakka

List break down as i see it:
5 man Terminator Suqad with Champion: 210pts
Hvy Flamer 10pts
1 Chainfist 5pts
Land Raider: 250pts
HK missile 15pts
Smokers 3pts
Land Speeder Tornado: 75pts
Assault Canon 10pts
Tac Squad 1 with champion: 90pts

Tac Squad 2with Rhino: 75pts+50pts
R.Launcher 10pts
Flamer 6pts
Dreadnought: 75pts
Assault Cannon 30pts
Smokers 3pts
Flamer 10pts
5 Assault Marines: 125pts
1 Plas pistol 5pts
Krak Grenade 2pts
-Commander: 45pts
Storm Bolter 5pts
Power Sword 15pts
-5 man Command Squad with Techmarine/Apothecary/Standart Bearer and Champion: 102pts
Chapter Banner 60pts
Narthecium/Reductor 25/5pts
Servo Arm 30pts
Signum 15pts
Auspex 2tps
4 Bikes+Champion: 155pts
Meltagun 10pts
Plasma 6pts
CC weapon 1pt

Total between 1510 and 1530pts.
Which means there is the 2% margin used.

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Longtime Dakkanaut

Your points on the land speeder are too high btw
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Dakka Veteran

Planet of Dakka

Well i used the old codex since i dont have the new one.
Dunno if they changed it though.

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Mounted Kroot Tracker

Using this list, the marines lost by 796 victory points.  Basically, as soon as my Kroot took out the land speeder with some sniper fire, there was nothing the marine army could do without completely exposing itself.  My opponent sped the land raider up and got out with the terminator squad for some heavy flamer goodness, but the entire unit and transport were then swamped with eviscerators.  Terrible list. 

New question:  Can anyone win with this list?

- Oaka

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Regular Dakkanaut

I think the point is to show a range of models to a newbie, not something tactically sound. Chill, Winston.
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