Need Advice on my Army

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**mrcg1**

I am new at this, I am going to be playing 400 point Army game in WarHammer 40k.

My opponents are Imperial Guards, Space Marines with Witch Hunters, and 2 different Elder teams.

The Space Marine biggest weapon is a Chimera Refutor
The Imperial Guard biggest weapon is an AutoCannon

I was planning on getting Chaos Spaces Marines, but any suggestions would be helpfull.

Thank you...

**Kamarathin**

hehe

This is the campaign that I am getting ready to start, we had a few trial "get to know the rules" games last night and mrcg1 decided to change to CHaos from orks.

The overall restrictions on army creation are the same as Combat Patrol with two modifications (no HQ units and allies are allowed). Currently in the campaign we have the following lists:

Imperial Guard
1 Infantry Platoon w/ 2 vet sgts and Jr. officer, heavy bolter, a few plasma and grenade launchers
1 Hardened Vet Squad w/ vet sgt, autocannon, plasma and GL

Eldar
Striking Scorpions w/ exarch
Storm Guardians
Jet bikes

Eldar
Howling Banshees w/ exarch
Guardian Defenders
Jet Bikes

Space Marines
Scout Squad w/ snipers, bolters and heavy bolter
Inquisitor w/ retinue mounted in an HB Chimera

**Kamarathin**

Here's the first run on his army list. Any suggestions?

400 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Unnamed

Troops: Chaos Space Marines (8#, 117 Pts)
8 Chaos Space Marines @ 117 Pts
Bolter (x7); Heavy Bolter

Elite: Khorne Bezerkers (7#, 147 Pts)
   7 Khorne Bezerkers @ 147 Pts
      Bolt Pistol (x7); Close combat weapon (x7); Krak Grenades; Khornate Icon of Chaos
      1 Mark of Khorne @ [5] Pts
         Blood Frenzy

Troops: Bloodletters (5#, 130 Pts)
   5 Bloodletters @ 130 Pts
      1 Hellblade @ [0] Pts
      1 Brass Armour of Khorne @ [0] Pts

Total Roster Cost: 394

**Khaotix**

Posted By Kamarathin on 08/14/2006 3:39 PM

Here's the first run on his army list. Any suggestions?

400 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Unnamed

Troops: Chaos Space Marines (8#, 117 Pts)
   8 Chaos Space Marines @ 117 Pts
      Bolter (x7); Heavy Bolter

Elite: Khorne Bezerkers (7#, 147 Pts)
   7 Khorne Bezerkers @ 147 Pts
      Bolt Pistol (x7); Close combat weapon (x7); Krak Grenades; Khornate Icon of Chaos
      1 Mark of Khorne @ [5] Pts
         Blood Frenzy

Troops: Bloodletters (5#, 130 Pts)
   5 Bloodletters @ 130 Pts
      1 Hellblade @ [0] Pts
      1 Brass Armour of Khorne @ [0] Pts

Total Roster Cost: 394

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Well .. first off there's no HQ.

Berzerkers mean you can't control your combat as much. Bloodletters need to be summoned which means it could be a few turns before they show up. If your Zerkers are toast by then, there's no unit with a Mark to summon.

If it were me I'd be fielding something like this -

2x 6man Las/Plas Squad @ 218 Total
1x Obliterator @ 70 Total
1x Chaos Lord @ 112

For the lord you could squeeze out a MoK + Berzerker Glaive, or go with some sort of darkbladed lord, a termie lord, or a lord with talons and some other fun gifts ...

plenty of options.

**djones520**

No HQ in the army selection allowed, as per the guys first post.

**Kamarathin**

Posted By djones520 on 08/23/2006 12:34 PM
No HQ in the army selection allowed, as per the guys first post.

That's correct. No HQ choices.

On top of all that, the player wants to utilize a Thousand Sons army. I know the common opinion that they are "the suck" but he really enjoys the Egyptian motif.

**Khaotix**

Posted By Kamarathin on 08/23/2006 2:43 PM

Posted By djones520 on 08/23/2006 12:34 PM
No HQ in the army selection allowed, as per the guys first post.

That's correct. No HQ choices.

On top of all that, the player wants to utilize a Thousand Sons army. I know the common opinion that they are "the suck" but he really enjoys the Egyptian motif.

In that case ...

rubric termies all the way

**Boss Salvage**

Hells yes!

9 Rubric Terminators - Sorcerer w/ chainfist, daemonic visage = 400

Dead 'ard, and the chainfist should gut any armor you really need to deal with ... along with anything else!
Top Tip: swap the sorcerer's combi-bolter out for the 'fist, that way you keep the power sword and can get +1 A (for a total of 4 attacks without the charge).

EDIT: Or there's also this route:

9 Rubric Terminators - Sorcerer w/ doombolt, daemonic strength = 400

Still dead 'ard, with less of a CC oomph (the strength helps wound marines though) and a little more dakka. True, not much in the way of anti-tank, but that might be a moot point at this low points level. Mostly, this is for those who want pscyhic powers and don't have a chainfist fetish o_O

- Boss Salvage

**Kamarathin**

Combat patrol rules do not allow anything with a 2+ armor save. So no termies, Rubric or otherwise.