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You're right, compared to buying the individual items separately, the regular starter sets are already a big discount.

Just a heads up for any other traders in the US working with Mantic.

My Sales Rep has stated that the main Warehouse in the UK began shipping trade shipments to a third party in the US, who is then to ship out to US based clients. Without informing him. He only figured it out after I had him look up my order because I was concerned.

As a result, what previously was a 3-5 day turn around for stock orders is at 8 days and counting, presently.

Mantic has put a bunch of new Trident Realm minis up for preorder. Most of them are amphibian (as promised) but some other gems snuck through:



Dambuster Regiment (hard plastic, optional heads/poison spit)


Dambuster Arbalest (hard plastic toad + resin gun/gunner)
The Kermit energy on that gunner's face is real and I'm here for it


Dambuster Pondwarden Sentinel (hard plastic toad + resin hero)
We've yet to see if the Pondwarden on foot from LoI will enter the list as a standalone (tho he could easily be a depth horror eternal)


Dambuster Sentintel (resin)
Not a new model but listed as a pre-order


Riverguard Regiment (hard plastic, two weapon options)


Tidal Swarm Regiment (resin)
These are new, right? They match the water elementals very well


Coral Giant (resin)

There are new Trident Realm Megas, Ambushes and Armies that include these new plastic frogs + toads. This might be the general release of the plastic Depth Horror Eternal as well?

Love those frogs!

Yo dawg we heard you like amphibians so we put frogs on your frogs so you can hop while you hop.

Plastic is a major advantage of course, but I do love these sculpts more
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-bullywug-brigade-bundle-141645

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Plastic is a major advantage of course, but I do love these sculpts more
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-bullywug-brigade-bundle-141645

I love Warp so much

Anyhoo, still waiting for the TR updated rules to drop, from the little I've heard it really is mostly frog-related, less of a whole faction rebuild (like I assume Abyss is getting in the fall or whenever).

I already have some Niads for my random forces of nature army, I'm really tempted to pick up some of these frogs and make a sub list for TR.

I really love these. I refuse to entertain another backlog project right now, but am still sorely tempted.

Mantic's quality legitimately keeps improving at a good clip. Ever since stuff like the Northern Alliance Crow-Cav, they've had a real run of great releases across all their game systems. Some of the new Deadzone/Firefight stuff is similarly dope.

Oh man, I need me some Riverguard for my games and comics!



Anyone else notice the normal frog sitting on the guy's head?

Very cool frogs!

Well, yeah. Otherwise their skin dries up.

 KidCthulhu wrote:
Oh man, I need me some Riverguard for my games and comics!



Anyone else notice the normal frog sitting on the guy's head?

I can help with that.

Legitimately good frog sculpts, and and interesting new amphibian concept to 28mm plastic.

Yeah, the cav I'm...meh-ish on, might be a paintjob issue, but those froggy footmen are great.

Mantic will definitely get me to commit to some frogees. Look really nice!

Forces of the Abyss are coming

Teaser from Mantic



and retailer have the following new for pre-order (without any details)

- Abyssal Beserkers (35€)
- Abyssal Nagarri (42€)
- Lord of Lies (65€)
(new Ambush, Army and Mega Army of course)

I'll get those on preorder shortly.

Nice to have two new, Archon-made sprues, but the snakebros all having 1 identical body is a bit... eh


And...



No! Bad Mantic! Bad!

I preserve my judgement on the implementation of command dice (for test rules, I guess), but they worked out great in many other games.

Can only speak to Deadzone, but the Command Dice there are an awesome addition, and introduce subtle chaos, in a way that doesn't disrupt balance. Big fan, so I will hear them out.

Wow, these riverguard are worse than lizardmen skink models. Worse detail sharpness, design, posture. And how old are skinks? 20 years at least? Closer to 25?
Red frogs are alright at least.

That certainly is an opinion

 WolleK wrote:
I preserve my judgement on the implementation of command dice (for test rules, I guess), but they worked out great in many other games.

Anyone care to let us know what Command dice generally do in a Mantic ruleset?

I'm not entirely against the idea of a command mechanic, but specialty dice and game-altering-mechanics-added-after-release, are usually red flags for me.

 Eilif wrote:

Anyone care to let us know what Command dice generally do in a Mantic ruleset?

You roll them to get CP, which you pay to activate a handful of Stratagems; stuff like double activations or shrugging off suppression. I honestly can't really imagine what they could do in vanilla KoW. I guess boring gak like a bonus on to hit rolls, damage rolls and re-roll Break tests, but there's not much design space for tactical twists. If they went for army rewrites they could shunt upgrades like Throwing Mastiffs into it I guess.

New forces of the abyss models look nice, not the units i expected to see. The ambush starter set feels like very good value to pick them up.

How big are the snake demons?

I would like to use them as proxies. They seem big enough but I want to make sure... Also, how big is that base they use?

150x100mm base for the 3 models

So old chariot base for 1 model

The addition of CP to KoW looks interesting. We invited a "professional" player into our minis group, and when we played a series of games, he crushed us. The game became too deterministic, with no wiggle room for us. If you didn't bring THE list, your game was over before the models hit the table.

Adding this modest element of chance is a welcome addition to the game. KoW can be very unforgiving when the skill sets between players are very different, something I've found to be less important in their other games.